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  • Fabes88
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    #51
    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
    GGG: 168 for Chavez? Perfect. No problem.

    GGG: 168 for Ward? No no, Ward too much.

    He be KO'ing HW's in sparring doe!

    Do people honestly not get the logic behind this decision.?

    Chavez= A side he makes the demands

    Ward= B side he makes concessions, after Dawson moving down to fight him why should he get it all his own way

    Froch and Chavez jnr would have been financially worth going to 168 for, Ward wouldn't have been.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Robi13
      you don't know me bro lol. I see why Canelo has made all his moves. MONEY! He is not ducking bbb. Doesn't he have the contract! Answer me that lil bish
      there is no real Contract you fool. Even Oscar just said the other day that it's verbal and that he planned to lower the offer based on gggs ppv sales vs jacobs. Yet another creative way to duck the fight that I'm sure you'll defend.

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      • Robi13
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        #53
        Originally posted by rrayvez
        there is no real Contract you fool. Even Oscar just said the other day that it's verbal and that he planned to lower the offer based on gggs ppv sales vs jacobs. Yet another creative way to duck the fight that I'm sure you'll defend.
        I'm not gonna defend Canelo If they don't offer the fight to bbb. But if it is 15 mil and bbb doesn't sign I won't defend bbb either.

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        • rrayvez
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          #54
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          What happened to you man??? You used to ocasionally have something good to say??? Now you just come off like



          I like Frampton a lot and he's not MexiCAN! I can't WAIT to see Conlan. He's gonna be SPECIAL! He was soo F'n ROBBED in the Olympics. I like Broner and Ward who are Black. Spence too.

          but you??? Man you got some HATE for MexiCAN fighters??? Where's that come from??? With a sur name like rrayvez you would think your almost Hispanic???
          I am Hispanic and again, don't like or dislike fighters based on race or heritage. Fighters I've been a real fan of regardless of race = Barrera, morales, Fernando vargas, (all Mexican or of descent) Trinidad, Camacho, cotto (all rican) Hagler, hearns, tyson, holyfield, ward (all black Americans), from the uk I currently like brook and liked froch. To be honest, there are only 2 fighters I dislike. 1 is obviously Canelo because I see through all the ggg games for what it really is which is an obvious duck in an attempt to wait for ggg to lose or get old before taking the fight. The other is khan because I think he's way too high on himself for a guy who's been ko'd as much as he has and every time he loses he has lame excuses as to why. As far as your earlier comment with Santa cruz, I don't care much but the fact is neither him or Frampton wanted to face rigo because rigo would put that dreaded L 12 on their record. They don't fear he'd ko them, but they don't want to be made to look bad like what he did to Donaire. Fighters today don't just fear being ko'd, they fear getting beaten period because it's a business decision. So I can't be convinced that it still wasn't a duck because it was.
          Last edited by rrayvez; 03-25-2017, 03:10 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Fabes88
            Do people honestly not get the logic behind this decision.?

            Chavez= A side he makes the demands

            Ward= B side he makes concessions, after Dawson moving down to fight him why should he get it all his own way

            Froch and Chavez jnr would have been financially worth going to 168 for, Ward wouldn't have been.
            To be fair Dawson is the one that said the 168 1st??? You know this??? So don't be ******.

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              #56
              Originally posted by rrayvez
              I am Hispanic and again, don't like or dislike fighters based on race or heritage. Fighters I've been a real fan of regardless of race = Barrera, morales, Fernando vargas, (all Mexican or of descent) Trinidad, Camacho, cotto (all rican) Hagler, hearns, tyson, holyfield, ward (all black Americans), from the uk I currently like brook and liked froch. To be honest, there are only 2 fighters I dislike. 1 is obviously Canelo because I see through all the ggg games for what it really is which is an obvious duck in an attempt to wait for ggg to lose or get old before taking the fight. The other is khan because I think he's way too high on himself for a guy who's been ko'd as much as he has and every time he loses he has lame excuses as to why. As far as your earlier comment with Santa cruz, I don't care much but the fact is neither him or Frampton wanted to face rigo because rigo would put that dreaded L 12 on their record. They don't fear he'd ko them, but they don't want to be made to look bad like what he did to Donaire. Fighters today don't just fear being ko'd, they fear getting beaten period because it's a business decision. So I can't be convinced that it still wasn't a duck because it was.
              Soo you hate Canelo when his career is 100x better than 35 year old GGG's??? And Canelo is ONLY like 26???

              Rig. WOULD beat Frampton and Leo by BORING UD. So what if they lose to P4P Top 5??? The fight will be forgotten the next day. i would rather see Frampton, Mares, Leo, Russell, Selby, Valdez, Cuellar, Quigg. Any way you want it. The FW Division is PIPING HOT!!!!

              You know the 1st thing I always hear from casual fans that don't know sht about boxing??? The D word.

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                #57
                Originally posted by rrayvez
                I am Hispanic and again, don't like or dislike fighters based on race or heritage. Fighters I've been a real fan of regardless of race = Barrera, morales, Fernando vargas, (all Mexican or of descent) Trinidad, Camacho, cotto (all rican) Hagler, hearns, tyson, holyfield, ward (all black Americans), from the uk I currently like brook and liked froch. To be honest, there are only 2 fighters I dislike. 1 is obviously Canelo because I see through all the ggg games for what it really is which is an obvious duck in an attempt to wait for ggg to lose or get old before taking the fight. The other is khan because I think he's way too high on himself for a guy who's been ko'd as much as he has and every time he loses he has lame excuses as to why. As far as your earlier comment with Santa cruz, I don't care much but the fact is neither him or Frampton wanted to face rigo because rigo would put that dreaded L 12 on their record. They don't fear he'd ko them, but they don't want to be made to look bad like what he did to Donaire. Fighters today don't just fear being ko'd, they fear getting beaten period because it's a business decision. So I can't be convinced that it still wasn't a duck because it was.
                You contradict yourself bro, how you not see that canelo vacating the belt was a business decision? But here in this post you defend people not wanting to fight rigo out of fear to lose which is business??? That's more of a duck to me then canelo vacating, if true of course but we don't know it's just your opinion... canelo ain't scared bro trust and when he does whoop lil b side, I wanna come here to boxingscebe and I want you to tell me I was right and you were wrong? I will do the same if bbb wins... deal?

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                • rrayvez
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  You contradict yourself bro, how you not see that canelo vacating the belt was a business decision? But here in this post you defend people not wanting to fight rigo out of fear to lose which is business??? That's more of a duck to me then canelo vacating, if true of course but we don't know it's just your opinion... canelo ain't scared bro trust and when he does whoop lil b side, I wanna come here to boxingscebe and I want you to tell me I was right and you were wrong? I will do the same if bbb wins... deal?
                  can you read? Where am I defending fighters making business decisions? I'm saying it's a duck whether fighters avoid someone for fear of losing or fear of ruining their record with a loss based on business. It's the same thing to me, 1 fighter is avoiding another. Period. You can brag all you want if Canelo somehow manages to win but the fact is he and golden boy have been waiting for him to finally look vulnerable so maybe now they'll actually man up.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Soo you hate Canelo when his career is 100x better than 35 year old GGG's??? And Canelo is ONLY like 26???

                    Rig. WOULD beat Frampton and Leo by BORING UD. So what if they lose to P4P Top 5??? The fight will be forgotten the next day. i would rather see Frampton, Mares, Leo, Russell, Selby, Valdez, Cuellar, Quigg. Any way you want it. The FW Division is PIPING HOT!!!!

                    You know the 1st thing I always hear from casual fans that don't know sht about boxing??? The D word.
                    not sure how you figure Canelo's career is 100x better than gggs. Ggg is 1 fight away from owning every single belt at mw and is approaching the mw title defense record set by Hopkins. Maybe you're referring to the fact that Canelo is the more popular fighter, more paid, and has had better named opponents available to him such as Floyd, cotto, etc. So by your logic oscar delaHoyas career is better than Roy Jones right??

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                    • Robi13
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rrayvez
                      can you read? Where am I defending fighters making business decisions? I'm saying it's a duck whether fighters avoid someone for fear of losing or fear of ruining their record with a loss based on business. It's the same thing to me, 1 fighter is avoiding another. Period. You can brag all you want if Canelo somehow manages to win but the fact is he and golden boy have been waiting for him to finally look vulnerable so maybe now they'll actually man up.
                      Lol, if that was the case how come you don't blame bbb side for not making concessions to make the fight? He didn't come to 155, he wants full 160 and more money! But it's canelos fault? Maybe bbb should of shown more urgency to make it happen instead of babysitting 160. Lame excuse. 35 yrs old and ever fought outside of that weight, one credible opponent. Bbb side obviously feels he isn't getting too old yet

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