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  • Lester Tutor
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    #21
    Originally posted by King_
    Huh? I don't get it lol, what are you arguing?

    Are you saying that Kovalev would beat Golovkin too? Of course he would, but skills aside (Kovalev is better in general, imo), he's too big for Golovkin. That's not a fair fight.

    I'm saying from 154-168, nobody can beat Golovkin, except for Ward. Maybe. I still don't think he'd win, but he'd have the best chance and at this point I'd probably be nervous for my boy GG while they're walking to the ring, tbh.

    Golovkin beats any other active fighters from 154-168 right now- 175 is way too big a step up, obviously, so I'm not comparing him to any LHWs except Ward currently
    you honestly don't understand frame sizes. Look how huge Ward is compared to Lennox Lewis in walk-around weight, side to side. DeGale, Ramirez, (maybe Jack), those guys look smaller compared to Ward. Ward is HUGE for a 168lbr now. Take it his metabolism has slowed and that fatty tissue and muscle is just bigger today. Stop using Ward in any 168 context. He is a LHW.

    get your logic right. If you'Re saying Gennady is inferior to a LHW you might as well say he can't hang at LHW with any top 100. Is that what you'Re saying? Or is it because the elite at LHW would blast him out so it's easier to say he doesn'T belong there?

    There's a reason why I have the signature caption pic below of ESPN saying his ''power'' is 2 divisions higher...which is why he has milked out 160 at 35 years of age. #Lyle Fitzsimmons

    we've been saying this for years
    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 03-24-2017, 09:37 AM.

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    • Rudiamonds
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      #22
      Originally posted by King_
      His chin ultimately couldn't hold up to the step up in class, but he did a lot of good things against Charlo. Remember, this is an unproven 154lber we're talking about. What do you think GG would do?

      Hell, even before the KO, he landed a hard shot.... Charlo has leaky defense, everything about him is all wrong for GG. GG would of KO'd him with that punch before the ultimate KO, IMHO.

      Bro just take this L and walk away you got ether just now .... ggg couldn't knockout Jacobs his power doesn't hold up to elite boxers

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      • Kigali
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        #23
        Originally posted by King_
        That's your opinion. In my opinion, he has no chance against Golovkin.

        Just let the fight happen and you'll see.

        Life and death with Julian Williams will not translate nicely to a fight with GG.
        There is something wrong with you.

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        • King_
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
          you honestly don't understand frame sizes. Look how huge Ward is compared to Lennox Lewis in walk-around weight, side to side. DeGale, Ramirez, (maybe Jack), those guys look smaller compared to Ward. Ward is HUGE for a 168lbr now. Take it his metabolism has slowed and that fatty tissue and muscle is just bigger today. Stop using Ward in any 168 context. He is a LHW.

          get your logic right. If you'Re saying Gennady is inferior to a LHW you might as well say he can't hang at LHW with any top 100. Is that what you'Re saying? Or is it because the elite at LHW would blast him out so it's easier to say he doesn'T belong there?

          There's a reason why I have the signature caption pic below of ESPN saying his ''power'' is 2 divisions higher...which is why he has milked out 160 at 35 years of age. #Lyle Fitzsimmons

          we've been saying this for years
          I don't understand frame sizes? You're reading between the lines and making up random stories

          Dude, let me make this clear for you:

          Regadless of Wards "frame," the fact of the matter is that he'd fight Golovkin at 168, not 175, and Golovkin will never move up to 175. Does that hurt your feelings or something? Wtf get over it dude. Lol

          IF GGG-Ward ever fought, it'd be at 168. Golovkin will NEVER move up to 175, and I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of sitting here and saying "Yeah, he won't move up because he'd get destroyed at 175." There's no reason to live in fantasy-land, GGG is a middleweight and a 35 year old one at that, he isn't moving up to 175. Ever. Get that through your brain.

          So Ward is a natural 175lber and won't move back down for GG. Okay? Then the fight won't happen.

          He doesn't belong at 175. He's too small, idc what your opinion is or what you've been saying for years about him moving up to 175. In my opinion he's too small for 175, obviously, so I'm not going to compare him to 175lb fighters just like how I'm not going to compare Junior Middleweights to Super Middleweights.

          GGG beats everyone from 154-168, only Ward has a chance to beat him at 168- if a fighter isn't planning on facing GGG in that range of weight classes, then I am not referring to him and he is irrelevant to this convo

          /discussion

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            #25
            Originally posted by Kigali
            There is something wrong with you.

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            • Lester Tutor
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              #26
              Originally posted by King_
              I don't understand frame sizes? You're reading between the lines and making up random stories

              Dude, let me make this clear for you:

              Regadless of Wards "frame," the fact of the matter is that he'd fight Golovkin at 168, not 175, and Golovkin will never move up to 175. Does that hurt your feelings or something? Wtf get over it dude. Lol

              IF GGG-Ward ever fought, it'd be at 168. Golovkin will NEVER move up to 175, and I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of sitting here and saying "Yeah, he won't move up because he'd get destroyed at 175." There's no reason to live in fantasy-land, GGG is a middleweight and a 35 year old one at that, he isn't moving up to 175. Ever. Get that through your brain.

              So Ward is a natural 175lber and won't move back down for GG. Okay? Then the fight won't happen.

              He doesn't belong at 175. He's too small, idc what your opinion is or what you've been saying for years about him moving up to 175. In my opinion he's too small for 175, obviously, so I'm not going to compare him to 175lb fighters just like how I'm not going to compare Junior Middleweights to Super Middleweights.

              GGG beats everyone from 154-168, only Ward has a chance to beat him at 168- if a fighter isn't planning on facing GGG in that range of weight classes, then I am not referring to him and he is irrelevant to this convo

              /discussion
              Golovkin beats any House Arrest opponent including short notice as well as Welterweights. Golovkin has only proven one thing. He can beat anyone from 147-160!

              Get that through your brain!

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              • Madison Boxing
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                #27
                who the **** is that only 6lbs difference between middle and jr middle, dont need to fight some bums to acclimatise to the weight

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  He's a guy that can punch instead of slap like that coke-whore in your Avi...
                  Heiland can punch now? Wtf?

                  Would you have said the same if GGG was gonna fight him?

                  I'm a Charlo fan and want to see Charlo vs GGG if it makes sense in the future but damn you're biased as hell. Heiland is whack af, don't big him up especially since he's nothing more than a testing the waters fight for Charlo.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    who the **** is that only 6lbs difference between middle and jr middle, dont need to fight some bums to acclimatise to the weight
                    The guy you would've had to hype up if he continued being mando for GGG.

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                      #30
                      Will this fight happen before his brother fights?

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