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Andre Ward really is a wasted talent.
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Originally posted by -PBP- View PostI somewhat agree. His stubborness outside of the ring caused a lot of inactivity and missed opportunities.
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Ward is leagues above Calzaghe.
whooped Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Green & Dawson.
moved up and beat Kovalev.
name an opponent Calzaghe beat that was as powerful and feared as Kovalev... prime and undefeated on top of it and top five P4P.
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Originally posted by -PBP- View PostOlympic gold medalist and unified champion in 2 weight classes?
What a waste of talent.
Although in theory I think you could argue every elite level fighter since the time of 4 belts taking over have had some talented wasted cuz of the lack of tip top matchups more often for the greatest fighters to have risen to their max level in the sport. Thats a structural problem with boxing today & the last couple decades more than a Ward thing doe.
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Originally posted by DeLorean;17536594[B]Ward is leagues above Calzaghe. [/B]
whooped Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Miranda, Green & Dawson.
moved up and beat Kovalev.
name an opponent Calzaghe beat that was as powerful and feared as Kovalev... prime and undefeated on top of it and top five P4P.
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Originally posted by Scholar View PostHaha! C'mon daggum. I don't know who you're trying to troll with that statement.
And to that other fellow asking who has Joe Calzaghe beat. Well:
Chris Eubank, Sr.
Robin Reid
Jeff Lacy
Mikkel Kessler
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones, Jr.
Those are Joe's "top" wins. A combination of prime, top opponents, some of who were expected to beat Joe with ease. Also, some of the biggest names of Joe's era. Can't really ask for more.
Other notable wins over former champions at Super Middleweight:
Byron Mitchell
Richie Woodhall
Charles Brewer
Sakio Bika
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Originally posted by LOLffler View PostWhen you take into account their age/prime that resume is pathetic for a so called ATG. Not Lil G pathetic, but still pathetic.
3x Lineal champions
3x Unified champions
10x World champions
He also unified titles on two seperate occasions, and won Lineal titles himself in two weight divisions.
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Ward accomplished a hell of a lot but he could have fought much more often. If somebody believes he beat Kovalev then he probably should be number one PFP. I thought Kovalev clearly beat him and I never had Kovalev higher than 3rd PFP so Ward is about 8th on my top 10 PFP list. Ward has already done more than enough to be remembered as a great fighter. If he clearly beats Kovalev in a rematch and beats Stevenson all the better.
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