GGG vs Jacobs sells more than GGG-Lemieux (PPV+Gate)

[Metho_4u]

Giftlovekin "I'll sign any contract"
Canelo "we'll give you 15 million"
Giftlovekin "I want 50/50"
Canelo "we'll give you 15 million"
Giftlovekin "you're scared, I fight jacobs and make 3.5 million, I'm huge draw, I deserve 50/50"
Canelo "Now it's 10 million"
Giftlovekin "please pleaseeee! I want to make fight, you're my big daddy, and I'm your good boy"

[BrometheusBob.]

Weren't tickets like 3x the price of the Lemieux fight but the revenue isn't even 2x? How many did they give away?

Hopefully none, otherwise I woulda gone

[Irony123]

If we're counting B side PPV's Canelo sold 2.2 million. Thanks for playing.

what an idiot... so how many ppvs did brook sell prior to fighting GGG?

that's right go back to the whole you crawled out of.

[Ce1ska]

They don't call him Gennady Gift Golovkin.

You're right, no one calls him that.

[Scipio2009]

I still laugh at the term "once they finish counting". It's 2017. Get a god damn report, dump it into excel and press the autosum button. TADA
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People still need to actually pay their cable/satellite bills; with folks also ending up paying their bills late (or after the bill heads to collections).

The only folks laughing at "once thy finish counting" don't understand the PPV model to begin with.

Most of the money is going to be paid on that first cable bill, with the next biggest chunk coming in over the two bills after that. You add the laggards (system error, folks who simply end up not paying), and it's basically a good 6-8 months until near all of the money to be collected is in (with little bits trickling in after that for nearly another year or so)

[Metho_4u]

People still need to actually pay their cable/satellite bills; with folks also ending up paying their bills late (or after the bill heads to collections).

The only folks laughing at "once thy finish counting" don't understand the PPV model to begin with.

Most of the money is going to be paid on that first cable bill, with the next biggest chunk coming in over the two bills after that. You add the laggards (system error, folks who simply end up not paying), and it's basically a good 6-8 months until near all of the money to be collected is in (with little bits trickling in after that for nearly another year or so)

Hmmm, so what you're actually saying is the REAL numbers won't come in for 8 months? Last I heard, no other ppv took that long to get numbers for

[Robbie Barrett]

People still need to actually pay their cable/satellite bills; with folks also ending up paying their bills late (or after the bill heads to collections).

The only folks laughing at "once thy finish counting" don't understand the PPV model to begin with.

Most of the money is going to be paid on that first cable bill, with the next biggest chunk coming in over the two bills after that. You add the laggards (system error, folks who simply end up not paying), and it's basically a good 6-8 months until near all of the money to be collected is in (with little bits trickling in after that for nearly another year or so)

Pretty sure that has nothing to do with it. The promoters/boxers get their cut regardless. That's money the customer owes to the cable provider, that's why they take 50% of the PPV money.

[Scipio2009]

Weren't tickets like 3x the price of the Lemieux fight but the revenue isn't even 2x? How many did they give away?

that's a good question, and one worth delving into.

MSG is a fixed point; it seats ~20,750, and that doesn't change. if the tickets truly were 3 times the Golovkin-Lemieux price, and that fight actually did sell out the building, simple math shows you Golovkin-Jacobs sold 2/3rds of the tickets that Golovkin-Lemieux sold. Basically 14k tickets, and that's assuming Golovkin-Lemieux actually sold out (which is quite unlikely).

[Scipio2009]

####SMART QUESTION####
The only reason that Canelo sells 300k is that Mexicans love boxing and he is Mexican. Now, if GGG was Mexican, whom Mexicans would favour, Canelo or GGG? Who would sell more? The guy would be a kind of Marquez for them.
Borning a MExican for boxers is a golden spoon in mouth.

If Golovkin was Mexican, the Mexican fans wouldn't have let him simply feast on cans for the first 10 years of his career.

He would've gotten the interim WBA belt, the fans would've given him a bit of a grace period immediately after getting the belt, but a year into his run, they would've started to demand that he take fights worth having, wherever they may be (with that 154-168lb line holding serious weight).

The Mexican fight fan wouldn't have stood by that Dominic Wade bull****, fighting a guy who was basically on house arrest for the full camp, let alone dragging up a welterweight a full two weight classes and crowing about the performance.

Saul Alvarez was given plenty of time to develop (starting professional at 16 added to that); by the time 2012 came around, the Mexican fight audience expected to see him fight in legit bouts (tried to get Paul Williams, before then trying to fight Victor Ortiz, and then into the real tough fight against Austin Trout).

Mexican fans love their fighters who go out there and fight the best that there's to fight; fighting bull**** fights is the quickest way to see folks abandon you.

[Scipio2009]

Hmmm, so what you're actually saying is the REAL numbers won't come in for 8 months? Last I heard, no other ppv took that long to get numbers for

The cable/satelite companies (Comcast, TimeWarner, U-Verse, DirectTV, etc) have a good initial estimate within two weeks of the, but the actual number takes significantly longer than that.

Floyd may have been speaking off of the cuff, but he pegged the Mayweather-Pacquiao PPV number at almost 5m PPV buys, after the initial estimate of the number being 4.4m. Richard Schaefer, I can't think of the actual article off the top of my head, had the final ODLH-Mayweather PPV number etched into memory; would bet that Schaefer's number is significantly different from what was mentioned immediately.

Folks are talking about numbers that get hinted at before even the first bills are paid; waiting for the actual numbers to come in would be a wait that most folks don't bother with, so the run with the first estimates as fact when they're not.