Will Golovkin get more credit for edging Jacobs than Ward for edging Kovalev?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #11
    There are no p4p Super Middleweights... Ward went northbound a fight he wanted himself not a mandatory ordered by a council...and Kova being top 5 p4p.... there's no comparison here.

    And Industry knows about #164 too..

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    • LetOutTheCage
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      #12
      Originally posted by Freedef
      GGG cant be P4P number one.. He has no defense he is not slick, sharp, fast he has just power. One dimensional fighter cant be p4p. Maaaaaaan
      He out-boxed jacobs, who is taller, faster and has more reach. GGG landed more punches despite coming forward all night with no defence? Ok bud.

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      • ddarrko
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        #13
        What is this constant obsession with GGG being a hype job. He is 37 and 0 with 33 KO's. He just won a UD against the number 2 rated MW in the division.

        Jacobs came into the fight with a significant height, reach ,weight (looked like a LHW) & age advantage. Even with all this working in his favor he was still out thrown, out landed and out boxed. Golovkin was more accurate in 9/12 rounds. He rocked Jacobs several times and knocked him down once. How can you describe Golovkins defence are terrible when Jacobs, who is known for his punching power didnt hurt or bother GGG once ?

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        • mathed
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          #14
          Originally posted by KingHippo
          GGG fans will have a real headache trying to justify Golovkin getting the no 1 p4p ranking after what happened last night. Barely beat Jacobs, and deep down inside alot of them know the decision was dodgy. So, can we admit that Ward is a superior p4p boxer than Golovkin considering that Kovalev was ranked higher than Jacobs?
          LOL....Kovalev dropped Ward, outlanded him, 70% of viewers felt Kovalev won the fight. Ward wins a fraudlike, suspect UD over the resident champ.

          GGG dropped Jacobs, outlanded him, landed at a higher %, and won a deserved UD over a game opponent as the resident champ.

          I don't see how anything is "dodgy" at all. What basis did you award Jacobs the fight? Getting outjabbed by almost 100 jabs, getting dropped, landing less punches than your opponent in 75% of the rounds, or connecting at a lower % than your opponent in 67% of the rounds?

          I curious to know by what mysterious basis Jacobs was robbed?

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          • uppercut510
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            #15
            I don't see how anyone is saying Jacobs won, Geegg clearly won the fight, people just thought that Jacobs glass chin wouldn't hold up, Jacobs held his own and we see Geegg isn't this invincible boogy man when matched up with a decent opponent, at the end of the day Jacobs is the #2 in the division so a close fight isn't bad.... but gggee is tough as nails and proved hes worth some of the hype, why I still don't consider him the best middle weight ever he is the real deal.

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            • daggum
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              #16
              roman lost, ward lost, ggg lost, p4p #1 is clearly amir king khan!

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              • icha
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                #17
                Originally posted by KingHippo
                GGG fans will have a real headache trying to justify Golovkin getting the no 1 p4p ranking after what happened last night. Barely beat Jacobs, and deep down inside alot of them know the decision was dodgy. So, can we admit that Ward is a superior p4p boxer than Golovkin considering that Kovalev was ranked higher than Jacobs?
                Ward went up in weight to challenge him self vs a p4p monster, ggg just fought jacobs who was droped by f***ing sergio mora...

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                • j0zef
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KingHippo
                  GGG fans will have a real headache trying to justify Golovkin getting the no 1 p4p ranking after what happened last night. Barely beat Jacobs, and deep down inside alot of them know the decision was dodgy. So, can we admit that Ward is a superior p4p boxer than Golovkin considering that Kovalev was ranked higher than Jacobs?
                  While I do still have Ward higher than Golovkin on a P4P list, this argument does paint the full picture.

                  Golovkin dropped his man and landed 50 more punches. Ward was dropped and outlanded by Kovalev, but still won. Danny was also huge compared to Golovkin. I'm not buying the whole "190 lbs" Khandashian drama, but Danny was visibly bigger than Golovkin. To me, Golovkin being the aggressor against a bigger dude is very impressive.

                  Lastly and this is purely subjective, while I do think that Sanchez' plan against Jacobs was all wrong, the version of Jacobs that boxed last Saturday was a DAMN good fighter. I personally didn't rate Jacobs that highly. He usually got careless and wild, but the tight, quick version of Jacobs we saw was a very solid fighter. In my opinion, that was a P4P fighter in Jacobs.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by j0zef
                    While I do still have Ward higher than Golovkin on a P4P list, this argument does paint the full picture.

                    Golovkin dropped his man and landed 50 more punches. Ward was dropped and outlanded by Kovalev, but still won. Danny was also huge compared to Golovkin. I'm not buying the whole "190 lbs" Khandashian drama, but Danny was visibly bigger than Golovkin. To me, Golovkin being the aggressor against a bigger dude is very impressive.

                    Lastly and this is purely subjective, while I do think that Sanchez' plan against Jacobs was all wrong, the version of Jacobs that boxed last Saturday was a DAMN good fighter. I personally didn't rate Jacobs that highly. He usually got careless and wild, but the tight, quick version of Jacobs we saw was a very solid fighter. In my opinion, that was a P4P fighter in Jacobs.

                    That's what the Golovturds have decided to roll with. Jacobs is P4P, he's elite.

                    It couldn't possibly be that Golovkin was never as good as the fools made him out to be.

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                    • Lomasexual
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                      #20
                      The obvious, true answer is that Loma, our lord and saviour, is #1 P4P.

                      However, for those who can't deal with that, then the answer is Kovalev. Kovalev beat a legitimate top P4P fighter when he beat Ward.

                      Ward and GGG are fighting it out for the next rung down. The question is whether Ward narrowly losing to a top P4P champion is worth more than GGG narrowly beating the #2 guy in his division.

                      I think Ward has to be given the edge there, because checking his whole body of work and he was a lot more depth to his resume than GGG does.

                      So the top 10 P4P now goes like this:

                      1) Loma
                      2) Vacant
                      3) Vacant
                      4) Kovalev
                      5) Vacant
                      6) Ward
                      7) Golovkin
                      8) Gonzales
                      9) Crawford
                      10) Mikey Garcia

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