If you thought Danny won....

[boxing_pundit85]

I'll bite.

Round 1: G did NOTHING this round. Nothing. Jacobs didn't do much but he did more.

Round 3: Jacobs was more effective with his jab this round.

Round 6,7,8: This is the sprint where Jacobs bumped the aggression, started throwing combinations.

Round 10 and 11: Jacobs backed off and started outboxing G. This is where G started to get frustrated.

115-112 Jacobs.

The two rounds I question on the judges' scorecards are rounds 1 and 8. G did NOTHING both rounds. They gave it to him because he was coming forward while ignoring that he was getting tagged on the way in.

Thx yeah i guess u can make a case giving danny all the close rounds and round 1 which was a classic 10 10 round imo. If jacobs got a decision in a fight where he was outlanded dropped and hurt multiple times i may have been done being a semi hard core boxing fan though. A parralel and scoring similarity , to ward kovalev, with kov and ggg having 2 great rounds where they dropped or hurt their opponent, but ward looked really good and convincingly won 4 or more rounds. I didnt see that in this fight. Maybe 2 rounds where im saying danny looked good and definitley controlled and won the round. A caveat: Take that uppercut and following flurry out of round 9, and im fine with a draw

[Buckfever]

1,3,6,7,10,11

I was a few deep when I watched it last night, but having rewatched it today I've changed my mind. I think it's hard to give the decision to Danny. But he did great IMO.

[Mr. 29K]

This is old news. Move on, let's talk about how Triple Flop lost

[Combat Talk Radio]

Thx yeah i guess u can make a case giving danny all the close rounds and round 1 which was a classic 10 10 round imo. If jacobs got a decision in a fight where he was outlanded dropped and hurt multiple times i may have been done being a semi hard core boxing fan though. A parralel and scoring similarity , to ward kovalev, with kov and ggg having 2 great rounds where they dropped or hurt their opponent, but ward looked really good and convincingly won 4 or more rounds. I didnt see that in this fight. Maybe 2 rounds where im saying danny looked good and definitley won the round.

Well, I subscribe to NSAC's Bob Bennett's way of thinking now that I heard his logic. I used to think like you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/3/5/14819476/nevada-commission-director-bob-bennett-reacts-to-questions-about-ufc-209-main-event-scoring

“If you’re a top-notch, A-plus judge, you should be able to discern through the scoring criteria who wins the fight, even if it’s razor thin,” Bennett said. “Does a 10-10 round come up? Yes, but in the three years — almost three years — that I’ve been the executive director, we have not had a 10-10 round. And I think it’s incumbent upon the judges to be on top of their game and be able to pick a winner in that round. One effective strike or kick can determine who wins a round.”

Bennett’s explanation falls in line with the policy of the Association of Boxing Commissions and Combative Sports (ABC), the body that oversees athletic commissions in North America. A 10-10 score is only supposed to be used if all three tiers of the scoring criteria are 100 percent equal, which is a rare circumstance.

Now this was in the context of MMA but the same logic applies in boxing. I saw no 10-10 round last night because in every round, either Jacobs or Golovkin took at least one of the criteria.

[boxing_pundit85]

Well, I subscribe to NSAC's Bob Bennett's way of thinking now that I heard his logic. I used to think like you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/3/5/14819476/nevada-commission-director-bob-bennett-reacts-to-questions-about-ufc-209-main-event-scoring

Now this was in the context of MMA but the same logic applies in boxing. I saw no 10-10 round last night because in every round, either Jacobs or Golovkin took at least one of the criteria.

Yeah so u just give round one to ggg. Danny knowing if he gets caught in round one it could be a very early night. In total fear mode. Judges seldom do 10 10 rounds. True.


And i agree,,,, my desciption of "outlanded hurt dropped ect" doesnt guarantee a defeat. I have a problem with the injustice of that, inherently imperfect/flawed scoring system. You are right it does happen. Again ward is a great example. He did not lose that fight within the bounds of the scoring system. But as a whole, he lost the actual 36 minute fight.

You could help it by having dominant rounds scored 10 8, and dominant rounds with a knockdown scored 10 7. And Actually using 10 10 rounds. Rounds you score a knockdown but otherwise lose 9 8.. all of this is possible but never happens. But then again they really need to scrap the whole system

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yeah so u just give round one to ggg. Danny knowing if he gets caught in round one it could be a very early night. In total fear mode. Judges seldom do 10 10 rounds. True.


And i agree,,,, my desciption of "outlanded hurt dropped ect" doesnt guarantee a defeat. I have a problem with the injustice of that, inherently imperfect/flawed scoring system. You are right it does happen. Again ward is a great example. He did not lose that fight within the bounds of the scoring system. But as a whole, he lost the actual 36 minute fight.

You could help it by having dominant rounds scored 10 8, and dominant rounds with a knockdown scored 10 7. And Actually using 10 10 rounds. Rounds you score a knockdown but otherwise lose 9 8.. all of this is possible but never happens. But then again they really need to scrap the whole system

No. Golovkin did not win round 1, I'm sorry. And I did rewatch it again on a non-English broadcast and saw what I saw the first time - body work.

Jacobs landed beautiful body shots and his defense was on point. He got hit, but largely by jabs. The effective aggression was Jacobs, not G. The reason they gave it to G was because G was constantly on the move forward and Jacobs was staying away. They punished Jacobs for what they thought was running when in reality, he was more effective with power shots in the round.

Same thing happened in round 8. There was one flurry by G; Jacobs slipped every single punch on the ropes, came back and assaulted the body again. Other than that, G was ineffective. They gave it to G because again, Jacobs was on the backfoot most of the round.


The judges basically gave G rounds where Jacobs didn't 100% engage despite Jacobs landing the more crisp shots. That's BS.

[Shape up]

Watching last night I had it 115-112 for Jacobs.

Watched again this morning and I switched the 2nd in Gennady's favor but still got 114-113 Jacobs.

2,4,5,9 & 12 for Lil g (10-8 in 4th)
1,3,6,7,8,10 & 11 for Danny

Always have said you know nothing about boxing, plus your ridiculously biased against GGG, that shows up in every post about him

[Sugar Adam Ali]

2,3,7,8,10,11


Key swing rounds were 1 and 9

[Sugar Adam Ali]

1.. neither guy did much of anything, ggg appeared to control the fight and win "ring generalship"

2 Jacobs

3 Jacobs

4 ggg.... golovkin starts opening up more, gets the knockdown, using the jab to snap Jacobs head back and neutralize the speed of Danny

5 ggg- again behind the jab

6 ggg- But Danny is doing some good bodywork and seems recovered from the knockdown

7 Danny- brutal bodyshots totally zap ggg, he abandons the jab and just comes forward with high guard and danny is able to get shots off without ggg's jab pounding him

8 Danny- Ggg still with no jab, just wading in behind the high guard

9 ggg- this was a really close round, Danny control most of it until the final 45 seconds when ggg landed some bombs and came alive.. I think ggg stole this round with the late theatrics

10 Jacobs

11 Jacobs

12 ggg




One point fight either way..


I think the main factor in the fight was when Jacobs landed those brutal body shots in 6th and 7th that zapped the energy level of ggg... once ggg wasn't active with the jab, Jacobs had a much easier time opening up. First 6 rds ggg was really effective behind the jab but Jacobs landed those body shots and the jab disappeared

[BoxingFan85]

Lol what?
This is not my exact scorecard but here's how

Round 1 10-10
Round 2: 10-9 Jacobs
Round 3: 10-9 GGG
Round 4: 10-8 GGG so it's a 2 point lead for GGG
Round 5 10-9 GGG so 3 point lead
Round 6 10-9 Jacobs
Round 7 10-9 GGG so 3 point lead still
Round 8 10-9 Jacobs 2 point lead
Round 9 10-9 Jacobs 1 point lead
Round 10 Jacobs even
Round 11 Jacobs Jacobs up 1
Round 12 GGG even..

Again not my card just how it could be a draw. So in essence I had it Jacobs winning 6 rounds, GGG 5 and one even and then the extra point for the knockdown makes it even.

Cheers for that...

I saw the fight live and this was how I had it too, 6 rounds for both.. but I have round 1 for Golovkin because he looked busier..
114-113 Golovkin..