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  • Simurgh
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    #11
    Originally posted by betmen
    pacman was average sized FW at one time or average sized LW another time. doesn't stop him to fight 20 lbs heavier margarito at 150.
    Yes, but GGG and Pacman fight nothigh alike. GGG is very physical versus Pacman in his prime was the fastest boxer alive.

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    • betmen
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      #12
      Originally posted by Simurgh
      Yes, but GGG and Pacman fight nothigh alike. GGG is very physical versus Pacman in his prime was the fastest boxer alive.
      you mean pacman's in and out, 70+ punches/round, FOTY worth fighting style is not physical? and what pac's speed connection to this topic??

      ok then i wont use pac as example, i use floyd this time. how you counter that?

      your logic is weird

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        #13
        Originally posted by betmen
        you mean pacman's in and out, 70+ punches/round, FOTY worth fighting style is not physical? and what pac's speed connection to this topic??

        ok then i wont use pac as example, i use floyd this time. how you counter that?

        your logic is weird
        You mentioned margarito fight. I saw it as pacman being brilliant in not engaging in any physicality (which was great).

        Same goes for Floyd.

        Both Floyd and Manny are brilliant in that sense.
        Gennady is not big MW, his game is being physical as he doesn't have the speed or athleticism of either Floyd or Manny.

        If you want to compare Genna with ATGs, compare him with Hagler.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          He should stay at his natural best fighting weight. He gave up maybe 10 pounds to Jacobs. If he fought big 168 pounders he might be giving up 15 pounds in the ring. If he loses a fight as 160 and he can make 154 that might be a better direction for him to go in weight wise. People who want him to move up to fight much bigger men like Ward are often the same people who ripped him apart for accepting Brook's challenge. They aren't interested in a fair fight. They just want GGG to lose. Meanwhile he should stay at 160 and defend his belts against worthy challengers. He should try to break Hopkin's record of 20 successful title defenses.

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          • betmen
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            #15
            just admit that lil g are only abc champion calibre fighter.

            not p4p worthy
            certainly not HOF or ATG level

            he probably can UD saunders and his rank promoted to undisputed champion in the weakest MW class of all time

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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              He should stay at his natural best fighting weight. He gave up maybe 10 pounds to Jacobs. If he fought big 168 pounders he might be giving up 15 pounds in the ring. If he loses a fight as 160 and he can make 154 that might be a better direction for him to go in weight wise. People who want him to move up to fight much bigger men like Ward are often the same people who ripped him apart for accepting Brook's challenge. They aren't interested in a fair fight. They just want GGG to lose. Meanwhile he should stay at 160 and defend his belts against worthy challengers. He should try to break Hopkin's record of 20 successful title defenses.
              Fully agree. I think he should stay at 160, although he can make 154 just as "easy" as Canelo.

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                #17
                Not anymore. I wanted Golovkin to go up and beat DeGale's ass but I no longer think it would be a good move. He should just fight Saunders.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by betmen
                  just admit that lil g are only abc champion calibre fighter.

                  not p4p worthy
                  certainly not HOF or ATG level

                  he probably can UD saunders and his rank promoted to undisputed champion in the weakest MW class of all time
                  That's your view. Many (me included) don't share your view.

                  Keep watching him and enjoy. Ultimatly it doesn't matter how do we rank him. He will be included in HOF once he retires.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                    Not anymore. I wanted Golovkin to go up and beat DeGale's ass but I no longer think it would be a good move. He should just fight Saunders.
                    Do you think he beats DeGale?

                    I said, before this fight, and was saying for sometime that I favour DeGale in that fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by betmen
                      you mean pacman's in and out, 70+ punches/round, FOTY worth fighting style is not physical? and what pac's speed connection to this topic??

                      ok then i wont use pac as example, i use floyd this time. how you counter that?

                      your logic is weird
                      Your logic is weird. Name the fighter that moved up to fight at a size disadvantage at 35. I'll give you a hint. Not Pac. Not Floyd.

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