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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post???You bring up Gamboa being off on year but COMPLETELY ignore Walter did ALSO???
The weight advantage was a huge factor in Crawford's winning that fight. The fight was competitive but Crawford punches had more impact and the weight advantage was obvious in later rounds.
I don't care that much if he was inactive, the fact that he was coming off 2 divisions below matters more, you didn't get that
Stop giving too much credit to fighters for violating small guys. I guess Kell Brook was a good win for Golovkin too
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostMan you guys are a bunch of flip floppers. Why not bring up the MIGHTY Walters looked like sht against Sosa??? Or that his BEST win was against a FADED Donaire who Top Rank just released??? And Top Rank DOESN'T release anyone willingly unless you are ALL used up.
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostPostal and Gamboa are better than ANYONE on Loma's AND GGG's resume.
You know you're trying to overhype Postol as some elite fighter to make Crawford's resume look better
YDKSAB if you thought it was a 50/50 fight. I've said that Crawford will dominate Postol in one-sided manner before the fight happened, which means I was right from the start and you don't know **** if you thought Postol had a chance, and you were wrong
Postol is a B class fighter, maybe even worse than Lemieux. He's a former security guard with almost NO amateur experience and you thought that kind of guy is able to outbox someone who's been boxing since childhood like Crawford. Postol didn't even have a lucky punch chance, his KO ratio is 41%, which makes Andre Ward looks like a ****ing Mike Tyson. His best win was an overrated brawler Matthysse who had Postol in trouble few times and quit because of the eye injury. Postol was an underdog in Matthysse fight, but because he pulled off an upset against Matthysse some of you ******s thought he had a chance against Crawford.
At the end of the day, I was right when I've said that "Crawford gonna murder Postol" here. And all of you mother****ers were wrong when you were trying to hype him up as a legitimate threat to Bud.
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostSLAP yourself for even THINKING Lemuix or Walters is/was.
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostGuess who was the guy who DIDN'T lose to Salido??? Bingo you guessed it Gamboa.
Now answer this question
Name one fighter who would be a better win than Walters for Loma at 130 at THAT moment? Just one nameLast edited by g27region; 03-17-2017, 07:56 AM.
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Originally posted by g27region View PostI don't ignore the fact that Walters was coming off 1 year of inactivity, but Walters was IN THE SAME weight class as Loma, unlike Gamboa/Crawford
The weight advantage was a huge factor in Crawford's winning that fight. The fight was competitive but Crawford punches had more impact and the weight advantage was obvious in later rounds.
I don't care that much if he was inactive, the fact that he was coming off 2 divisions below matters more, you didn't get that
Stop giving too much credit to fighters for violating small guys. I guess Kell Brook was a good win for Golovkin too
Faded or not, Donaire was a top p4p fighter and knocking him out is a better accomplishment than anything your beloved "Postal" ever achieved in his career
I'm laughing at your ****** ass now
You know you're trying to overhype Postol as some elite fighter to make Crawford's resume look better
YDKSAB if you thought it was a 50/50 fight. I've said that Crawford will dominate Postol in one-sided manner before the fight happened, which means I was right from the start and you don't know **** if you thought Postol had a chance, and you were wrong
Postol is a B class fighter, maybe even worse than Lemieux. He's a former security guard with almost NO amateur experience and you thought that kind of guy is able to outbox someone who's been boxing since childhood like Crawford. Postol didn't even have a lucky punch chance, his KO ratio is 41%, which makes Andre Ward looks like a ****ing Mike Tyson. His best win was an overrated brawler Matthysse who had Postol in trouble few times and quit because of the eye injury. Postol was an underdog in Matthysse fight, but because he pulled off an upset against Matthysse some of you ******s thought he had a chance against Crawford.
At the end of the day, I was right when I've said that "Crawford gonna murder Postol" here. And all of you mother****ers were wrong when you were trying to hype him up as a legitimate threat to Bud.
Oh man, shut the **** up, and don't bring up Lemiueux, I'm not defending GGG's resume.
Go ahead and tell me Gamboa or Salido would beat the **** out of Lomachenko now. I don't consider fights where some fighter got huge weight advantage to be fair, that goes to fights like Crawford/Gamboa, Salido/Loma, Kell Brook/GGG
Now answer this question
Name one fighter who would be a better win than Walters for Loma at 130 at THAT moment? Just one name
So matthessee is an overrate brawler but Lemuic who LOST to a 154 lbs guy and was TKO's by Ricky Rubio isn't???
Matty > Lemuix
I don't even like Crawford. I'm just saying he has a better resume AND without a LOSS!!!!
You know who I think will beat Loma...
When they fight I'll match you what ever you want homey. You can ride and die with you man crush while I use my head and take the guy who is going to win. I don't get all emotional when it comes to betting. I play the odds and show ZERO loyalty. Come see me when they're signed to fight.
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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostWalters is overrated. And no beating a faded good fighter doesn't count. Walters was doing what you accuse Crawford of doing. Beating up MUCH smaller guys. Didn't he even mis weight and was STRIPPED???
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostSo matthessee is an overrate brawler but Lemuic who LOST to a 154 lbs guy and was TKO's by Ricky Rubio isn't???
Matty > Lemuix
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostI don't even like Crawford. I'm just saying he has a better resume AND without a LOSS!!!!
Combined win/loss ratio of his defeated opposition is 3 levels above the same win/loss ratio of fighters like Kovalev or Crawford - you can check for yourself. He's about to face 5 titleholders in 9 fights. I'll say it again, 5 titleholders in 9 fights. You have to be kidding when you say he doesn't have any good wins in his resume
Are you trying to convince me that beating a guy who was inactive for 1 year is worse than beating a guy who was inactive for same 1 year but also moving up from two divisions below you? Or that beating a guy who's best scalp is ****ing Matthysse is a better win than making quit a guy who KO'd a p4p fighter, even faded one, in 6 rounds? I will never agree with this, simply because that's not true
And I like Crawford, I think he has Hall of Fame kind of talent, but I call a spade a spade. I can't go against reality
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostYou know who I think will beat Loma...
Garcia/Lomachenko fight is more of a challenge to Loma, not Garcia who's naturally bigger
Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostWhen they fight I'll match you what ever you want homey. You can ride and die with you man crush while I use my head and take the guy who is going to win. I don't get all emotional when it comes to betting. I play the odds and show ZERO loyalty. Come see me when they're signed to fight.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostIt says a lot about how biased people in this sport are when even Keith Thurman has a way better resume than GGG but somehow GGG is ranked in the top 3 p4p. Kovalev was outboxed by Ward but somehow he is in the top 3 above Ward. Pacquiao's last two victories are Bradley and Vargas, way better comp than anything GGG has faced, but somehow GGG ranked above him for facing relatively unproven welterweights and bums.
The great white hype fer real.
Yet you talk about bias.
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Originally posted by g27region View PostYou forgot that Walters was the only name that fans were bringing up as a legitimate threat to Lomachenko, the only name who could test him at that period of time, they were asking for that fight, not Corrales or Berchelt or any other name at 130. Walters was THE BEST win that Loma could get at that moment
Man, why you keep mentioning Lemieux, I don't care about Lemieux or Golovkin's resume.
Let me just say that, Crawford has deeper resume, Lomachenko has better wins.
Combined win/loss ratio of his defeated opposition is 3 levels above the same win/loss ratio of fighters like Kovalev or Crawford - you can check for yourself. He's about to face 5 titleholders in 9 fights. I'll say it again, 5 titleholders in 9 fights. You have to be kidding when you say he doesn't have any good wins in his resume
Are you trying to convince me that beating a guy who was inactive for 1 year is worse than beating a guy who was inactive for same 1 year but also moving up from two divisions below you? Or that beating a guy who's best scalp is ****ing Matthysse is a better win than making quit a guy who KO'd a p4p fighter, even faded one, in 6 rounds? I will never agree with this, simply because that's not true
And I like Crawford, I think he has Hall of Fame kind of talent, but I call a spade a spade. I can't go against reality
If Loma had a fight with Garcia instead of Walters at that period of time, people like you would say Garcia was inactive and rusty.
Garcia/Lomachenko fight is more of a challenge to Loma, not Garcia who's naturally bigger
Like I'm getting all emotional here. Fighters like Garcia always has a chance against ANYBODY, especially considering that he's a strong puncher. See, I'm not trying to discredit other fighters like you. But the fact that all of you were hyping up Postol as a legitimate threat when I've said Crawford will beat him in one-sided manner, tells me everything I need to know about boxing fans like you
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Originally posted by yammy25 View PostAbsolutely no chance is Golovkin number 1 P4P.
Extremely good boxer, but hasnt fought anyone over B level and his division is weak as ****.Originally posted by larry x.. View Posti agree....good boxer but lacks the opposition to be the best
Pacquiao is the only fighter that stands out here, an ATG, on the verge of retirement who is cashing out.
Otherwise you have
Welterweight - Thurman, Garcia, Brook, Porter, Spence (Khan+Berto)
Middleweight - Golovkin, Canelo, Jacobs, Saunders, Lemieux, Charlo, N'Jikam, Eubank (Selucki, Stevens, 'chenko + Murata)
Wheres your logic ? Thurman and Garcia both had vacant titles at the weight. Brook has 1 good win, relative to the division. Spence has beaten no-one. This assumption needs defending
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