Unified or Lineal?

[Robbie Barrett]

I would have loved to have seen these boards back when Mayorga and Baldomir was lineal. Isaac Clarke must have been praising these dudes up and down, seeing as they were the lineal champs.

Weren't those guys also unified champs?

[Jsmooth9876]

I would have loved to have seen these boards back when Mayorga and Baldomir was lineal. Isaac Clarke must have been praising these dudes up and down, seeing as they were the lineal champs.

Did Mayorga beat Forrest for the lineal? That's a hell of a win regardless of what Mayorga ended up being. Beating Zab Judah not nearly as much.

[MDPopescu]

Show me the list of who the lineal champions are.

Everybody knows that it's the TBRB List"...
They are ranking only four lineal champions to date, namely:


Light Heavyweight -- Adonis Stevenson
Middleweight -- Saul Alvarez
Junior Welterweight -- Terence Crawford
Junior Featherweight -- Guillermo Rigondeaux

[Jsmooth9876]

Everybody knows that it's the TBRB List"...
They are ranking only four lineal champions to date, namely:


Light Heavyweight -- Adonis Stevenson
Middleweight -- Saul Alvarez
Junior Welterweight -- Terence Crawford
Junior Featherweight -- Guillermo Rigondeaux

That's a hell of a list

One guy who won't fight anyone
Another who dropped his title and ran from the best guy in the division
Crawford is the truth
And a guy who can't get a fight against anyone

Lineal means next to nothing when you look at this list

[MDPopescu]

Everybody knows that it's the TBRB List"...
They are ranking only four lineal champions to date, namely:


Light Heavyweight -- Adonis Stevenson
Middleweight -- Saul Alvarez
Junior Welterweight -- Terence Crawford
Junior Featherweight -- Guillermo Rigondeaux

That's a hell of a list

One guy who won't fight anyone
Another who dropped his title and ran from the best guy in the division
Crawford is the truth
And a guy who can't get a fight against anyone

Lineal means next to nothing when you look at this list

I don't make comments...
The guy wanted a "list", and I posted The Transnational Boxing Rankings Board list...

[SensFullViolenc]

Pacquiao lineal, Thurman unified. Pacquiao>Thurman

OK, Pac >>> Thurman, but

Ward >>> Stevenson

GGG >>> Canelo

So youve got 2 unified champs better than the lineal, and 1 lineal better than the unified.

So I guess unified >>> lineal, right?


Actually it depends on the circumstances, but since you demand an answer, based on current situation, unified is better than lineal.

and apparently, there is some dispute as to whether Pac is lineal or not.

[Real King Kong]

I would have loved to have seen these boards back when Mayorga and Baldomir was lineal. Isaac Clarke must have been praising these dudes up and down, seeing as they were the lineal champs.

The second ggg becomes lineal champ, isacc won't give a **** about lineal titles anymore. It's just the last straw he can grasp at to say ggg isn't the man at 160.

[techliam]

Being unified, or being lineal only matters if you are the no.1 fighter.

[TheCleaner]

so much discussion over something that no matter how we square it, doesn't mean jack because pro boxing in its current form is NOT a sport, it is an entertainment business that regularly showcases the sport of boxing in exhibitions. competition only gets made if both guys (and their teams) want it to, a multitude of exhibitions is all boxing is. it's entertaining, the most in fact, to me, but i know I'm the fan of an entertainment business.

simply, it could only become a 'full sport' if fighters signed up to tournaments that once signed up to, you participate in fully, or forfeit. every bonafide sport has tournaments,c regularly, in one form or another to determine the best. anything else would be just an exhibition or a 'friendly' no matter how much fans put meaning to it. of course is not 'perfect' even still, real sports are still littered with corruption, group stages match ups etc are usually random lottery to help combat it, but their very setup of how competition comes about makes them sports, boxing, sadly, just isn't.

all we're doing now is guessing how x,y or z active fighters would do if they all competed, who would prevail on top, they never actually have to. apply how pro boxing fights happen to any other actual sport, and you see how utterly manufactured it is. super six might have been the closest we've had

[TBear]

Simply put.

Unfied/Lineal

40 or 50 years ago Lineal meant "the man that beat the man" stemming from the days when there was one champion, or later two in each weight division that unified. One recognized undisputed champion, and the line of fighters that followed. Years later "The Ring" started recognizing Champions in their magazine. However many weight divisions in their rankings had "vacant" as champion. They could not make the WBA and WBC fight each other(and later the IBF). So in order to fill these vacancies in their rankings they start recognizing Any top fighter that would fight any other fighter in their top three, often leaving the other recognized champion out to dry. Fans, and many writers started labeling these Ring champions as lineal champions in spite of the fact they were not, nor ever the undisputed champion in their own weight division. Old school and traditional thought is that the lineal line cannot start with part or parts of a championship. It takes "ONE" to start the line. But fans, you are welcome to look at it as you choose. I personally embrace the true and original meaning.