Biggest underachiever in boxing?

[iamboxing]

I always thought Andrew Golota could have done a great deal better in his career if he'd had a tougher mindset

[Sadiqkingofko]

Felix Savon...Audley Harrison...and of course Ali Raymi...imagine if he had brought his skills to vegas...he could have been Hamed version 2.0

What happened to Ali Raymi anyways??

[Poppo168]

What happened to Ali Raymi anyways??

He got blown up in a Saudi airstrike hahaha

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Strange how Dennis Rappaport was never heard of before and then disappeared from the boxing scene. Same with Victor Valle, not a trainer of champions.

Yes, sir. Very fishy business...

[Redd Foxx]

You would have to play the blame game to understand the guys situation. He tried fighting those other champions but clearly ducked him, what should he do? He's already competing in a weight class that's 1 or 2 above his natural weight, you can't expect him to go up can you?

Not trying to make fun of you but you seem to misunderstand the underachiever/overachiever thing. Ali achieved more than anyone. Tyson achieved more than a short HW with mental issues would typically would.

Rigo has all the potential in the world and had achieved so little as a pro. That's the very definition of underachieving. You're taking like it's slander, like you need to defend him. That's not what this is about. It's a measurement of accomplishments in proportion to potential.

[kiDynamite92]

lol wut

he's virtually in every top 3 of all-time list ever in the history of the sport by any and everybody

and he probably sits at the very top on the majority of those lists

if that's underachieving...

It depends how you define underachieving I guess, for me it's how far you could have gone with your potential and I feel like Ali could have gone even further had he been not robbed of his prime years. Yes I agree he should be in the top 3 all time, the post you quoted did have me saying he's the greatest heavyweight ever on my list but I feel like that gap between him and the second best guy could have been even further had he not lost his licence.

[kiDynamite92]

Not trying to make fun of you but you seem to misunderstand the underachiever/overachiever thing. Ali achieved more than anyone. Tyson achieved more than a short HW with mental issues would typically would.

Rigo has all the potential in the world and had achieved so little as a pro. That's the very definition of underachieving. You're taking like it's slander, like you need to defend him. That's not what this is about. It's a measurement of accomplishments in proportion to potential.

You wrote it and I agree.

With the potential that both Ali and Tyson had, they could have gone further had it not been because of other factors. Yes Ali has accomplished more then any other heavy, scroll up and you'll see that I wrote I have Ali as #1 on my list but I feel the gap between him and #2 Joe Louis would have been greater had he been able to fulfill his true potential which had been severely restricted because of outside facts. The same could be said about Tyson.

When talking about Rigondeaux, you gotta take into account with what's going on around him, would you not consider it an accomplishment with him making those champions around him hide like cowards?

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Big Tyson Fury.

Has the tools and talent to be the greatest HW the world has ever seen, but unfortunately his head just isn't there.

[Redd Foxx]

You wrote it and I agree.

With the potential that both Ali and Tyson had, they could have gone further had it not been because of other factors. Yes Ali has accomplished more then any other heavy, scroll up and you'll see that I wrote I have Ali as #1 on my list but I feel the gap between him and #2 Joe Louis would have been greater had he been able to fulfill his true potential which had been severely restricted because of outside facts. The same could be said about Tyson.

When talking about Rigondeaux, you gotta take into account with what's going on around him, would you not consider it an accomplishment with him making those champions around him hide like cowards?

We're just not going to agree. You think Ali and Tyson underachieved because you view them as gods.

I still don't see what you think Rigo has achieved. But, it's a moot point.

[classicbuzzbox]

I honestly thing he is very overrated.
Lacked size length and and chin to be the GOAT.
He was the most spectacular glass cannon in the history of boxing.

Who at heavyweight had a better chin than Tyson? Even in his KO losses he always looked like he gave up than was genuinely unable to continue. He is a top ten heavyweight chin easy.