Comments Thread For: Jacobs: Was 'Devastating' to See Stevens Knocked Cold By Lemieux

[TonyGe]

I was worried about Stevens and his family. It must have been tough for Jacobs to see that. I know Stevens is controversial with his prefight antics. Don't know if he is boosting his confidence or just selling the fight. Anyway boxers have died in the ring. Hope he makes a full recovery. If you want to see some real brutality watch hockey. Some of the stuff that goes on is disgusting. Blind side hits to the head using the armoured shoulder at full speed. Personally I stopped watching hockey. Boxing has better inforcement the of the rules.

[Muutt]

5 more days n its his turn to sleep for us

[Motofan]

"You must spread some reputation around..."

But still,

[aboutfkntime]

I was worried about Stevens and his family. It must have been tough for Jacobs to see that. I know Stevens is controversial with his prefight antics. Don't know if he is boosting his confidence or just selling the fight. Anyway boxers have died in the ring. Hope he makes a full recovery. If you want to see some real brutality watch hockey. Some of the stuff that goes on is disgusting. Blind side hits to the head using the armoured shoulder at full speed. Personally I stopped watching hockey. Boxing has better inforcement the of the rules.

hockey is a blood-sport

they intentionally allow the game to resemble the wild west

[SteveM]

Oh, I think it's not quite so black and white.

No-one you know wants to see a brutal KO? How about commentators shouting "he was out before he hit the canvas"? They don't usually say that with a sombre tone, full of concern for the fallen boxer, do they?

Boxers saying early stoppage robbed them of a well deserved KO? Crowd booing for what they consider a premature stoppage?

Also, there's no clean line between 'watching a guy sustain far more punishment' and robbing a guy of a chance. Just watch Gatti-Ward or Corrales-Castillo I. Or take Magomed Abdusalamov fight - no-one thought the fight should have been stopped. There have been a few fights where a fighter would lose a decision then collapse in the dressing room, not to come back again.

I went through some soul searching to make peace with boxing myself - I watch boxing because I think it does more good than bad overall. But that's going to change as life gets better, and there will be a day when boxing won't provide a net benefit to humanity. So enjoy boxing while you can - but be honest about it. We are watching people getting hurt and we like it. Sure, we don't wish permanent damage on anyone - it's just that there's no way around it...

You can already watch the boxing you'd find more digestible - in the amateurs.

As you point out, nobody knows which boxer will die or be seriously injured. So any relative who goes to a fight should be aware of those risks. Parents love to see their children do well but doing badly in pro boxing carries all the inherent risks.

Violent KOs are a part of boxing. We have a choice how we choose to react to them. You sound like you want to control how I react to a KO. Why are you bothered by that?

The Charlo ko of J-Rock was a beautiful move, aesthetically pleasing and I admired the athleticism. I am honest enough to admit that seeing a fighter crumple to the floor adds to the spectacle although if that combo would have just stunned J-Rock then i'd still have admired it. Now if it was all down to an electronic tagging system as in fencing then I think 99% of us wouldn't be on these boards and as a result NSB and pro boxing would no longer exist. How many supporters does fencing have?

[HarvardBlue]

I'm sure he was devastated to see his friend lose in such a way but it's ridiculous to think this will somehow influence his upcoming fight. There was another brutal KO on SHOBOX the night before did that have him shook too? How about when Manny Pacquiao was near death in the Marquez fight? How far do we wanna go back to prove how he'll be shook on Saturday?

[richardt]

Oh, I think it's not quite so black and white.

No-one you know wants to see a brutal KO? How about commentators shouting "he was out before he hit the canvas"? They don't usually say that with a sombre tone, full of concern for the fallen boxer, do they?

Boxers saying early stoppage robbed them of a well deserved KO? Crowd booing for what they consider a premature stoppage?

Also, there's no clean line between 'watching a guy sustain far more punishment' and robbing a guy of a chance. Just watch Gatti-Ward or Corrales-Castillo I. Or take Magomed Abdusalamov fight - no-one thought the fight should have been stopped. There have been a few fights where a fighter would lose a decision then collapse in the dressing room, not to come back again.

I went through some soul searching to make peace with boxing myself - I watch boxing because I think it does more good than bad overall. But that's going to change as life gets better, and there will be a day when boxing won't provide a net benefit to humanity. So enjoy boxing while you can - but be honest about it. We are watching people getting hurt and we like it. Sure, we don't wish permanent damage on anyone - it's just that there's no way around it...

It is quite black and white. The point I made which had to do with compassion, or lack thereof. The first 3/4 of what you mentioned is before the moments of concern that a fighter is hurt worse than initially suspected. There is a difference between a sudden quick KO vs a KO or a level of punishment that starts looking like there could be serious damage. No one but a sadistic *** wants to see a fighter seriously hurt. Anyone who saw Stevens mother who has a heart would feel compassion for her. I'm talking about the conscious awareness that something has gone wrong in a fight, not the emotions in a pitched battle where there is a give and take. It's called having compassion - or having a innate sadistic streak. Both of these types exist in society and yes, as fans of sports too. People with compassion, have a limit to the brutality or punishment they care to see another human being go through. Others, have a sadistic streak and want to see another human being suffer badly for whatever sinister reasons. You mentioned the commentators but failed to realize that their comments were at the time of the KO, not the somber moments after the KO where anyone with a heart would feel concern for the fallen warrior. That's the point I am making and your "hypocrisy" statement regarding watching KO's as coupled with concern for Stevens' mother does not apply here.

[Kigali]

I wonder if Stevens will the same watching you get flattened in the same manner in 5 days time.

GGG may well be the one getting flattened.

[Kigali]

5 more days n its his turn to sleep for us

It might be Gigi's turn to sleep for us.

[MantisToboggan]

Only one getting KOd is Golovkin.

98% of the forum will eat crow

crossdressing canelita fan?