Lemieux cheated. Why are y'all praising him?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

the white guy won so of course he must have cheated

I respect you as a poster and I expected better from you than a race baiting post.

[Redd Foxx]

Didn't come here to fuss over the cheat itself (yea, it was a cheat, but boxing is full of various forms of cheating and it's about what you can get away with) but what's worth reiterating is the hypocrisy of the fans that scream about other fighters being cheaters. If you've ever called Ward or Floyd cheaters but are overlooking this blatant weight cheat, then your opinion isn't half as valuable as you think it is.

[Eff Pandas]

Weren't there like 2 senators or some type of government officials a few years back running a bill or something to do this with boxing? Im pretty sure I read something about it somewhere a few years back.

To create a boxing league? I don't recall anything like that, but f#ck maybe. Personally I'd be against it cuz I don't want the government to have anything to do with sports, boxing or other sports. I want a group of investors with a belief they can make some profit + make boxing bigger + make boxing make sense again behind a boxing league.

Idk that the Muhammad Ali Act has truly done anything based on the still sketchy contracts promoters push on naive or just straight up ****** fighters which was the main reason it was created. I mean it shoulda been called the F#ck Don King Act instead of the Muhammad Ali Act.

And commissions got all sorts of differences between each other. There just needs to be one set of rules. We can create a better scoring system, we can do 2nd weigh ins, we can do drug testing, we can do a bunch of things with one entity controlling elite level boxing, but when you got all these state & national boxing commissions with all these alphabet groups along with all these promoters & managers trying to cut up their own piece of the pie + networks involved its really no surprise boxing makes no f#cking sense to most reasonable sports fans & seems more like pro wrestling than a legit sport.

/rant, this is obviously a huge pet peeve with me that my favorite sport is an incredible clusterf#ck of sh^t that don't make sense lol.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

To create a boxing league? I don't recall anything like that, but f#ck maybe. Personally I'd be against it cuz I don't want the government to have anything to do with sports, boxing or other sports. I want a group of investors with a belief they can make some profit + make boxing bigger + make boxing make sense again behind a boxing league.

Idk that the Muhammad Ali Act has truly done anything based on the still sketchy contracts promoters push on naive or just straight up ****** fighters which was the main reason it was created. I mean it shoulda been called the F#ck Don King Act instead of the Muhammad Ali Act.

And commissions got all sorts of differences between each other. There just needs to be one set of rules. We can create a better scoring system, we can do 2nd weigh ins, we can do drug testing, we can do a bunch of things with one entity controlling elite level boxing, but when you got all these state & national boxing commissions with all these alphabet groups along with all these promoters & managers trying to cut up their own piece of the pie + networks involved its really no surprise boxing makes no f#cking sense to most reasonable sports fans & seems more like pro wrestling than a legit sport.

/rant, this is obviously a huge pet peeve with me that my favorite sport is an incredible clusterf#ck of sh^t that don't make sense lol.

Yea man. I can't tell you specific details cause it was so long ago that I read this and Im pretty sure it was here too. I think the main goal was just to form something like the other sports have. I don't think it was about the government being involved in it. I think the only reason why no one in boxing is pushing for something like this is because of all the money involved.

[The Gambler1981]

Yea it is cheating, but if it was that big a deal the IBF should have stopped the fight from going down or Stevens should have walked.
Those have consequences but still if the rule is important it should be followed.

If the rule can be blown off then maybe it shouldn't even be a rule?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Lemieux was smart for simply dismissing a title he didn't care about. Stop trying to reword things to assume nefarious intent. Why bother with a requirement for a title you don't care about?

And I didn't call Stevens "dumb", I said he wasn't smart. Not the same thing. A smart fighter would have made sure everything was equal ground before agreeing to a fight - including rehydration rules regardless of titles. His failure to do that wasn't smart.

Just like Marquez wasn't smart to allow Floyd to essentially drain him with higher weight requirements.

Everything was equal until Lemieux decided not to hold up his end of the rules. If he didn't want to fight for that belt he should've said something ahead of time. How was Stevens supposed to know Lemieux wasn't going to uphold his end of the agreement? So now Stevens isn't as smart as Lemieux because he isn't a mind reader? Lemieux skipped out on the rehydration clause they'd previously agreed to. How is this OK?

[Motorcity Cobra]

the white guy won so of course he must have cheated

Yea, the white guy I picked to win. You can have a seat too

Since Lemieux skipped that second day weigh in he's probably 180lbs. I'm taking Lemieux by KO 3x

[KillaCamNZ]

Here you go bro.


See any word in the definition that was used in your post?

Hint: I bolded it in your quote.

Savage - wrecked him.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Savage - wrecked him.

It wasn't meant to be like that though. He is cool. He just has a different view and it happens.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Yea it is cheating, but if it was that big a deal the IBF should have stopped the fight from going down or Stevens should have walked.
Those have consequences but still if the rule is important it should be followed.

If the rule can be blown off then maybe it shouldn't even be a rule?

You know it just isn't that simple.