Would boxing be better with 154 pound division?

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  • jmrf4435
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    #21
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    210+ (heavyweight)
    210 (cruiserweight)
    192 (light heavyweight)
    178 (middleweight)
    164 (welterweight)
    140 (lightweight)
    126 (featherweight)
    112 (bantamweight)
    98 (flyweight)
    I like this alot

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    • boliodogs
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      #22
      If boxing was to go to fewer weight classes then they should consider dropping weight classes that are only 4 pounds or less from another weight class. 112 and 115 are only 3 pounds apart. Go up 3 more pounds and you have the 118 pound class. Going from 122 to 126 is a very small gap as is 126 to 130. If you eliminate 154 then welterweights must stay welterweights or go up 13 pounds. Many on this forum were outraged when the fight between welterweight champ Brook and middleweight champ GGG was announced.

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        #23
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Unless i have just entered into a parallel dimension? I thought there was a 154 pound division.
        *WITHOUT the 154 pound division

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          #24
          Originally posted by jmrf4435
          It would make 160 better and there would be less 147-160 catch weight BS. Also, I find this weight creates a lot of problems. You have 147 guys who take on 154 guys, but the 154 guys never want to move up to 160.

          It's a divisions that in my opinion, is causing problems. It's not just Canelo GGG. The Charlos would be great additions to 160, so would Andrade...

          "WITHOUT THE 154 pound division"
          I'm fine with doing away with it. Makes 160 much more stacked. In fact, I think it has hurt 160 over the years. Guys wait on welters to fight them but never go to 160. If they had no choice, they'd have to face the big boys which they should anyway.

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            #25
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            If boxing was to go to fewer weight classes then they should consider dropping weight classes that are only 4 pounds or less from another weight class. 112 and 115 are only 3 pounds apart. Go up 3 more pounds and you have the 118 pound class. Going from 122 to 126 is a very small gap as is 126 to 130. If you eliminate 154 then welterweights must stay welterweights or go up 13 pounds. Many on this forum were outraged when the fight between welterweight champ Brook and middleweight champ GGG was announced.
            Yes they did, but I doubt anyone kicked up a fuss when Armstrong jumped up to face Ceferino Garcia. Of course, society was a lot different in those days...

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              #26
              Originally posted by anthonydavid11
              I'm fine with doing away with it. Makes 160 much more stacked. In fact, I think it has hurt 160 over the years. Guys wait on welters to fight them but never go to 160. If they had no choice, they'd have to face the big boys which they should anyway.
              Exactly, I think it's killing 160 right now. True 160 fighters just fight at 154 to build there name. they should have been 160 to begin with

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              • A.K
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                #27
                154 is one of the best divisions in boxing and usually where welters finish their careers out as well, same for 147 these two divisions are both stacked and a lil apart from each other, if anything needs to be removed it's anything under 118.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jmrf4435
                  Exactly, I think it's killing 160 right now. True 160 fighters just fight at 154 to build there name. they should have been 160 to begin with
                  A lot of divisions get hurt by all of these extra weights. Lightweight would have Loma, Vargas, Berchelt, Salido, Linares, Mikey, Crolla, Commey, Easter and more. Much better than the broken up two weight classes that we have now, with more titles and more reasons for the best not to be fighting the best.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by A.K
                    154 is one of the best divisions in boxing and usually where welters finish their careers out as well, same for 147 these two divisions are both stacked and a lil apart from each other, if anything needs to be removed it's anything under 118.
                    There's no problem with 154, noticed how it was singled out? It's a GGG thing, they want him to feast on guys from 147-154 and refuse to say he should move up to 168.

                    JMW has had some great fighters, but now it should be eliminated for GGG.

                    Griffith
                    Kalule
                    Leonard
                    Duran
                    Benitez
                    Hearns
                    McCallum
                    Ayala Jr
                    Mugabi
                    Jackson
                    Curry
                    Vasquez (very underrated not talked about much, Ring top 10 at 154 from 1991-1998, at worst was #6, and was #1 for two straight years in that span, was top 3 for the majority of 91-98)
                    Norris
                    De La Hoya
                    Mosley
                    Wright
                    Mayweather
                    Trinidad
                    Quartey
                    Vargas
                    Forrest
                    Martinez
                    etc.

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                      #30
                      Keep 154. Consolidate the weight classes below lightweight. There are eight classes below 135. EIGHT.

                      That needs to be cut in half.

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