''If We Look At Marciano's record, he Fought a Bunch of DUCKS!'' - Floyd

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  • low blows
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    #151
    Originally posted by adrikitty
    Floyd's resume is definitely better than Marciano's, but he's completely wrong about the Rock.

    First of all, it should be noted that Marciano would have likely been a MW with today's weight-cutting techniques.

    The guy stood not a hair above 5'9'', with a sub-70" reach.

    He came into the ring at around 185 pounds. He probably walked around not much higher than this. Some guys who fight at MW right now, walk around 188ish or more if they've been out of the gym for a while.

    What he accomplished was nothing short of amazing.

    His natural power... Jesus... Just ferocious.
    No you are wrong his non training weight was over 200 pounds. He literally ate a soup and salad diet to make 185ish. He had a few amateur fights where he weighed closer to 200 pounds eating more and he at one time incorporated weightlifting into his training too.

    Today he would be a short cruiserweight who probably would be stuck in the division but would jump to heavyweight for a cash out payday.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #152
      Originally posted by travestyny
      Gonna ask you the same question that ADP02 ducked. How did Mayweather duck prime Pac when he offered 50/50, 14 day cut-off for drug testing, and even Freddy Roach said the reason the first negotiation failed was because of Pac's side.

      Let's see how you answer.
      you wont get an answer

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      • therealpugilist
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        #153
        Originally posted by djtmal
        so Floyd fought for 12 lineal titles or just beat 12 guys who were current or former lineal titlelists
        12 guys who won lineal titles....he also won lineals titles at 130, 135, 147(2x) and 54

        in 49 fights that's very impressive considering guys like Chavez and Duran fought 100+ arguello had near 100

        no matter how you try to flip it dip it the man fought high level opposition consistently

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          #154
          Agree with Floyd. Marciano isnt in my top 50..

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            #155
            Floyd has had an amazing career. I think his greatest asset is his ring intelligence. Add that to his skill and it's an unbeatable combination. Still, discrediting Marciano and his undefeated stellar record is unprofessional and represents an insecure egotistical component of Floyd's personality. Floyd just can't be humble, it's not in his nature.

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            • djtmal
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              #156
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              12 guys who won lineal titles....he also won lineals titles at 130, 135, 147(2x) and 54

              in 49 fights that's very impressive considering guys like Chavez and Duran fought 100+ arguello had near 100

              no matter how you try to flip it dip it the man fought high level opposition consistently
              Nope just being clear about how many lineal titles he actually fought and won. The way you phrased it made it seem like he was a 12 time lineal title winner.

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                #157
                Originally posted by djtmal
                Nope just being clear about how many lineal titles he actually fought and won. The way you phrased it made it seem like he was a 12 time lineal title winner.
                you knew what i meant


                stop trying so hard to disagree or play devil's advocate


                anybody with a brain knows the man fought better oppositiont than rocky and a lot of other great fighters.


                people are just too emotional when it comes to the guy. You dont fight in all those championship fights and fight scrubs.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  you knew what i meant


                  stop trying so hard to disagree or play devil's advocate


                  anybody with a brain knows the man fought better oppositiont than rocky and a lot of other great fighters.


                  people are just too emotional when it comes to the guy. You dont fight in all those championship fights and fight scrubs.
                  5 lineal titleists is a great accomplishment.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by A.K
                    He fought old guys for his best wins plus was backed by the mob he wasn't losing a decision.
                    Was coming out of retirement, to fight Floyd Patterson, until Liston destroyed Patterson. Marciano wanted no part of a prime killer like Liston.
                    Last edited by The Akbar One; 03-14-2017, 09:40 AM.

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      5 lineal titleists is a great accomplishment.
                      so is 5 time lineal champion in 4 weight classes

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