Fights Where The Roider/PEDer........

[iamboxing]

First off, the RJJ post has no evidence. Second, everyone knows the black bottle was spiked with a combo of coke and asthma meds which made his lungs open up and give him extra stamina. Listen to the audio, he says specifically when handed a bottle of clear water...."no, not that one, the black one" why? what's the difference between water in one bottle and the other? Also, Lewis is a known cheat and the reason some guy took a beating with gloves that had no padding and then killed himself a year later. Assault in the ring is the documentary on it.

[iamboxing]

question -

how would mike tyson, holy, lenny, bradley, k2 reputations be if they came out and admitted to roiding

would their fans still love them ?

Holyfield (google evan fields) doesn't need to admit it, he's a known roid user but he's forgiven because he was never a natural HW, but I like his warrior mentality but lets be clear.....he headbutted Tyson in both fights DELIBERATELY.

Sports Illustrated’s Web site reported a patient of a Mobile, Ala., lab by the name of “Evan Fields” raised some su****ion among investigators. The so-called “Fields” shares the same birth date as Holyfield, has a similar address, and when reporters called the phone number associated with those prescriptions, Holyfield answered.

source: https://nypost.com/2007/03/02/report...-buy-steroids/

[Butt stuff]

did he fail the test in either fight
and according to punch stats, mg landed more. so if rjj was roiding, he used the bad batch.

The punch stats for which fight?

[Elroy The Great]

Holyfield (google evan fields) doesn't need to admit it, he's a known roid user but he's forgiven because he was never a natural HW, but I like his warrior mentality but lets be clear.....he headbutted Tyson in both fights DELIBERATELY.



source: https://nypost.com/2007/03/02/report...-buy-steroids/

ya know, when you forgive some but crucify others for the same offense, that muddies the water.

''i like you so youre forgiven.''

The punch stats for which fight?

1st
.......Jones Griffin
Landed 113 141
Thrown 372 298
Pct. 30% 47%

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ro...n_(1st_meeting)

[Elroy The Great]

First off, the RJJ post has no evidence. Second, everyone knows the black bottle was spiked with a combo of coke and asthma meds which made his lungs open up and give him extra stamina. Listen to the audio, he says specifically when handed a bottle of clear water...."no, not that one, the black one" why? what's the difference between water in one bottle and the other? Also, Lewis is a known cheat and the reason some guy took a beating with gloves that had no padding and then killed himself a year later. Assault in the ring is the documentary on it.

you should check out the punch stats to the bottle fight. most people had ap winning.

again, just because a guy has a 2nd wind doesnt mean hes going to to work.

cmon. there has to be fights where a cheater was on the dope and won a fight he had no business winning.

[Butt stuff]

ya know, when you forgive some but crucify others for the same offense, that muddies the water.

''i like you so youre forgiven.''



1st
.......Jones Griffin
Landed 113 141
Thrown 372 298
Pct. 30% 47%

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ro...n_(1st_meeting)

You’re proving my point. First fight Jones was struggling and losing rounds. Second fight he completely obliterated him and was acting like a roided up meathead in the post fight interview???

If you haven’t seen them, go watch them.

[Elroy The Great]

You’re proving my point. First fight Jones was struggling and losing rounds. Second fight he completely obliterated him and was acting like a roided up meathead in the post fight interview???

If you haven’t seen them, go watch them.

ok, moving on from the selective punishment topic.....

are you saying he was busted for roiding in the 2nd fight ?

and if so, why cant he get a pass ?

as for post fight stuff, meh. he sounded perfectly fine days later. in fact, he doesnt sound like a meathead today.

[Butt stuff]

ok, moving on from the selective punishment topic.....

are you saying he was busted for roiding in the 2nd fight ?

He wasn't busted until later in his career.

and if so, why cant he get a pass ?

Whose talking about a pass? you asked for an example. Pass or not is irrelevant.

as for post fight stuff, meh. he sounded perfectly fine days later. in fact, he doesnt sound like a meathead today.

Not all drugs leave a lasting impression, you don't smoke weed once and then become stoned for the rest of your life. Odd remark.

Just out of interest, how old are you?

[Elroy The Great]

He wasn't busted until later in his career.

Whose talking about a pass? you asked for an example. Pass or not is irrelevant.

Not all drugs leave a lasting impression, you don't smoke weed once and then become stoned for the rest of your life. Odd remark.

Just out of interest, how old are you?

1) the point of this thread is debunk the notion that some pharmaceutical concoction is going to win a guy a fight he had no business winning. the only scientific proof is the stuff makes the user a training camp immortal. hell, the shlt could be a placebo.

2) you mentioned how holy would be given a pass since he wasnt a real hw. how is it cheating has layers

3) he didnt sound like a meathead to me. and if he did, he just got finished fighting. probably the least important notice.

roids/p'e'ds are not the demons witch hunters make them out to be. holy is living proof.

[Butt stuff]

1) the point of this thread is debunk the notion that some pharmaceutical concoction is going to win a guy a fight he had no business winning. the only scientific proof is the stuff makes the user a training camp immortal. hell, the shlt could be a placebo.

2) you mentioned how holy would be given a pass since he wasnt a real hw. how is it cheating has layers

3) he didnt sound like a meathead to me. and if he did, he just got finished fighting. probably the least important notice.

roids/p'e'ds are not the demons witch hunters make them out to be. holy is living proof.

I didn’t mention Holyfield, must’ve been another poster.

I don’t think I’ll be able to change your preconceptions so let’s agree to disagree, but I think whether you’re for or against the legalisation of PEDs in sport, it’s hard to deny that if you’re a little bit stronger, a little fresher, and a more focussed mentally in the championship rounds (than you would’ve been naturally) then you’ve got an advantage. And that’s just one minor aspect, there’s many other factors that PEDs can improve.