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  • Aztekkas
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    What does it take to make an exciting fight?

    It's funny to me that as of late everyone seems to want to excuse boring fights between two notable names simply because, "It's two elite fighters in there... they are playing chess".

    Gtfo. So what are you saying? Does it take an overmatched opponent with a world class fighter in order for a fight to be explosive and dynamic? Or two rockslingers launching bombs away and hitting each other until their faces cave in for a fight to be FOTY?

    The sweet science exist but as of late it seems more like a built in excuse for lacklustr performances.

    Fan 1: what a boring fight... 3 punches per round?

    Fan 2: it's the sweet science bruh. They in there thinking, calculating every step. In fact you might see a boring fight but I saw a Fight of the Decade candidate. I saw what they were thinking and they had an explosive fight.... they got so exhausted in their mental war that they could only exert enough physical effort to launch 3 punches a round. It's beyond your limited comprehension.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Aztekkas
    It's funny to me that as of late everyone seems to want to excuse boring fights between two notable names simply because, "It's two elite fighters in there... they are playing chess".

    Gtfo. So what are you saying? Does it take an overmatched opponent with a world class fighter in order for a fight to be explosive and dynamic? Or two rockslingers launching bombs away and hitting each other until their faces cave in for a fight to be FOTY?

    The sweet science exist but as of late it seems more like a built in excuse for lacklustr performances.

    Fan 1: what a boring fight... 3 punches per round?

    Fan 2: it's the sweet science bruh. They in there thinking, calculating every step. In fact you might see a boring fight but I saw a Fight of the Decade candidate. I saw what they were thinking and they had an explosive fight.... they got so exhausted in their mental war that they could only exert enough physical effort to launch 3 punches a round. It's beyond your limited comprehension.
    While I won't criticize Thurman vs Garcia, I did enjoy the fight...But to answer the question, see Leonard vs Hearns I.

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    • -PBP-
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      Styles make fights bro. Garcia isn't comfortable pressing the action. He likes to plant his feet and time you with mid-range hooks.

      Thurman likes to use his feet, create angles and ambush you with power shots. But Garcia did a good job of moving his head and avoiding those attacks.

      It all comes down to what's more important to you? Do you want to see the best fighters in the division perform or do you only want style matchups that create fireworks?

      If seeing the best is what is important, you have to be able to enjoy watching the top fighters perform, regardless of what style they use.

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      • BucaRican
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        2 guys out there to actually fight and not worry about losing a 0 on there record. Thats why UFC at times becomes exciting and you get good match ups. Guys are not worried about losing that 0. UFC fighters know that even if they lose somewhere down the line they could get another shot. In Boxing this whole thing about having to be undefeated is magnified. Guys take less risk.

        It's seems like only people like KHAN get unlimited opportunities.

        Gone are the days that guys just wanted to scrap. Now are the days guys want a 0 on the record. Alot is to blame on management of fighters and promoters trying to play it safe with fighters that can bring them money.

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        • Aztekkas
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          #5
          Originally posted by -PBP-
          Styles make fights bro. Garcia isn't comfortable pressing the action. He likes to plant his feet and time you with mid-range hooks.

          Thurman likes to use his feet, create angles and ambush you with power shots. But Garcia did a good job of moving his head and avoiding those attacks.

          It all comes down to what's more important to you? Do you want to see the best fighters in the division perform or do you only want style matchups that create fireworks?

          If seeing the best is what is important, you have to be able to enjoy watching the top fighters perform, regardless of what style they use.

          I get what you're saying and I agree with it all. Also, thanks for your excellent breakdown.

          I suppose I'm just disappointed haha. I expected the One Time of old to show up and either dismantle or get dismantled... sadly he just came in, did his job and cruised. Which is fine and all but for this fight to be held in such a high regard, I just didn't see the luster in it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Aztekkas
            I get what you're saying and I agree with it all. Also, thanks for your excellent breakdown.

            I suppose I'm just disappointed haha. I expected the One Time of old to show up and either dismantle or get dismantled... sadly he just came in, did his job and cruised. Which is fine and all but for this fight to be held in such a high regard, I just didn't see the luster in it.
            Wait until Thurman vs Peterson. There you will have a guy that wants to get inside and fight at close range. That will be much higher paced fight.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Aztekkas
              It's funny to me that as of late everyone seems to want to excuse boring fights between two notable names simply because, "It's two elite fighters in there... they are playing chess".

              Gtfo. So what are you saying? Does it take an overmatched opponent with a world class fighter in order for a fight to be explosive and dynamic? Or two rockslingers launching bombs away and hitting each other until their faces cave in for a fight to be FOTY?

              The sweet science exist but as of late it seems more like a built in excuse for lacklustr performances.

              Fan 1: what a boring fight... 3 punches per round?

              Fan 2: it's the sweet science bruh. They in there thinking, calculating every step. In fact you might see a boring fight but I saw a Fight of the Decade candidate. I saw what they were thinking and they had an explosive fight.... they got so exhausted in their mental war that they could only exert enough physical effort to launch 3 punches a round. It's beyond your limited comprehension.
              Charlo vs Williams, to me, was an exciting fight; both guys with skills, both guys with power, both guys with ring smarts, with both guys having similar but different styles. High-speed chess with brain trauma potential, so to speak.

              Thinking man's fight, with both fighters looking to do damage, which ended with explosive technique.

              Thurman-Garcia was exciting enough for about 10 rounds, and then Thurman stopped fighting; rather than keeping aggressive and on his wits, Thurman went into a prevent defense and ran to close out the fight.

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              • Aztekkas
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                #8
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Charlo vs Williams, to me, was an exciting fight; both guys with skills, both guys with power, both guys with ring smarts, with both guys having similar but different styles. High-speed chess with brain trauma potential, so to speak.

                Thinking man's fight, with both fighters looking to do damage, which ended with explosive technique.

                Thurman-Garcia was exciting enough for about 10 rounds, and then Thurman stopped fighting; rather than keeping aggressive and on his wits, Thurman went into a prevent defense and ran to close out the fight.
                Exactly, my friend.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Aztekkas
                  It's funny to me that as of late everyone seems to want to excuse boring fights between two notable names simply because, "It's two elite fighters in there... they are playing chess".

                  Gtfo. So what are you saying? Does it take an overmatched opponent with a world class fighter in order for a fight to be explosive and dynamic? Or two rockslingers launching bombs away and hitting each other until their faces cave in for a fight to be FOTY?

                  The sweet science exist but as of late it seems more like a built in excuse for lacklustr performances.

                  Fan 1: what a boring fight... 3 punches per round?

                  Fan 2: it's the sweet science bruh. They in there thinking, calculating every step. In fact you might see a boring fight but I saw a Fight of the Decade candidate. I saw what they were thinking and they had an explosive fight.... they got so exhausted in their mental war that they could only exert enough physical effort to launch 3 punches a round. It's beyond your limited comprehension.



                  So very true. Haha.

                  In boxing, as with all sports, you have your "hardcore" fans, basically an elitist BS club that says "We're so much smarter than you and you just don't get it because...(well you know the Roger Mayweather quote)."

                  A fight has to have entertainment value to be interesting to anyone with half a pulse. These purists are usually making excuses for a guy taking the safest route possible. It's all well and good for the fighter at the time, but when they can't sell out a high school gymnasium, they only have themselves to blame. The warriors will always get more respect and money in this game. Always been that way and always will be.

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                  • NUCLEAR
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                    #10
                    Both guys commiting 100% beating each others asses. Nowadays their just satisfied winning on points.

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