Has Thurman earned a top 10 P4P ranking?

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  • bigdunny1
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    #31
    Originally posted by HanzGruber
    Wtf is this. He needs to beat Porter again and the. Brook Spence just to crack top 10? Frampton was top 10 for beating quigg and Leo. Porter and Danny are better than both of them.

    People didn't have Danny cause he's one of the most hated on this site. Hell people didn't even wanna add him after he beat lucas. Both Danny and Thurman were top 15 pfp before tonight
    BS Most had Danny top 10 when he beat matthsyee don't rewrite history. He was on top the world and fans were asking him to challenge Floyd after that win. But that was 4 years ago. Since then he got his azz whooped by a journey man Herrera, bogus decisions, bad performances and a couple of all time worst cherry picks. His resume is azz cheeks starting with the Herrera fight and you know it. Nobody had him top 15 heading into this fight and he has proven nothing at 147 won a bogus paper belt because of politics and Floyd retiring to vacate the belt. He didn't earn that belt daddy haymon bought it for him.

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    • satiev1
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      #32
      I disagree. He needs to clean out 147. Winning close decisions against your peers is not p4p material. Danny is no kovalev or ward. I don't see how that's a p4p performance.

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #33
        Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
        The very same arguments you made about Thurman can be made about Bradley but you have him above Thurman.
        They are close.. I have neither in the top 10.. Bradley is more on the down side but has more quality wins.. dethroning witter, taking the '0's of Peterson, abregu and Devon. Marquez, Vargas, and that's not even giving credit for the manny victory.

        Thurman is a top 20 fighter, just not a top 10..

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        • Lomasexual
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          #34
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Thurman didn't clearly win that fight. He clearly beat Danny but the porter fight was close and could of gone either way with many feeling porter won. There is no doubt that he has to rematch porter.
          Gonna have to agree to disagree then. I thought he clearly beat Porter.

          I do agree that rematch needs to happen. The first fight was brilliant.

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          • glenn mcrory
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lomasexual
            Is this one of those 'quantum alternative universe' things, where black is white and up is down?

            Cause I only know of the one fight between the two, where Thurman clearly won a really good fight.
            Its an opinion. I didn't believe he won that fight. Plenty of others agree with me so I don't count it as some great victory because I didn't even think he won. Close fight, but I thought Porter edged it.



            Originally posted by HanzGruber
            Wow. You're a ***ing moron.
            Ad hominem attack followed by absolutely nothing of substance?
            I know whose M.O. this is...
            Of course its you.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #36
              I put Thurman in the same league as I did years ago with guys like maidana, Lucas, corrales.. great fighters that can beat top guys but that can also lose to top guys, and never be able to have clear dominant victories vs top level guys like all the other p4p guys have i.e. Floyd, manny, Hopkins, loma, rigo, kovolev, Ward, etc

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              • g27region
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                #37
                Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                Mate, do you know the definition of P4P?

                Every fan has his own criteria for p4p, but what does p4p has to do with the fact that every weight class influences boxer to fight a certain way, so there's no reason bringing up that "if they were the same weight" bull****?

                You can compare their performances, dominance over the opposition, resume, skills, potential to succeed in their divisions, accomplishments in the sport, but you'd never know how good Thurman, Usyk and Mikey would be if they were the same weight. Do I really have to explain this?



                Imagine if Wilder was the same weight as Lomachenko, he'd be the man at 130, or what if Rigondeaux was a heavyweight ha ha, that **** is ******ed, man, stop it
                Last edited by g27region; 03-05-2017, 03:43 AM.

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by g27region
                  Every fan has his own criteria for p4p, but what does p4p has to do with the fact that every weight class influences boxer to fight a certain way, so there's no reason bringing up that "if they were the same weight" bull****?

                  You can compare their performances, dominance over the opposition, resume, skills, potential to succeed in their divisions, accomplishments in the sport, but you'd never know how good Thurman, Usyk and Mikey would be if they were the same weight. Do I really have to explain this?



                  Imagine if Wilder was the same weight as Lomachenko, he'd be the man at 130, or what if Rigondeaux was a heavyweight ha ha, that **** is ******ed, man, stop it
                  I dont need explanation from a dude so dense as you. You obviously do not know the CONCEPT of P4P.

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                  • Sweet Pea 50
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                    #39
                    Nope............

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                    • g27region
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                      I dont need explanation from a dude so dense as you. You obviously do not know the CONCEPT of P4P.
                      Okay, tell me YOUR concept of p4p if I'm dense

                      "who would be the best if all fighters were the same weight?" - that's the concept?

                      I base my p4p on resume, skills and potential of fighters, I guess my criterias are ****** and not relevant, ha ha, there's some different CONCEPT here
                      Last edited by g27region; 03-05-2017, 04:05 AM.

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