DSG has always been Top 5 P4P since 2014

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  • cork
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    #21
    Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
    Yet he beat better opposition then other mentioned
    Resume is all opinion based. How can you say one boxer from one division is better then another boxer from another division? I look at skill set when i rate boxers and Garcia skill set isnt impressive.

    Its all opinioned based and even then Garcia resume looks overhyped. His best wins are khan and maythesse. I dont count morales because he was on his way to retirement just like i dont count Canelo great resume by beating cotto.

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    • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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      #22
      Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
      doesnt resume prove your skill?
      But even resume is not a good argument for Garcia.

      He has questionable wins vs Theophane, Herrera AND Peterson. When you lose to those kind of fighters that doesn't make you a P4P fighter. If you lose to a P4P fighter that's understandable but when you lose to fighters you were supposed to win against...

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #23
        he was close when he was on that string of victories over morales, judah, khan, lucas... But watching him struggle with movement vs herrera and peterson, its very hard to say danny has elite skills.. Some areas of his game are elite like his counterpunching, power, timing, decent to above average chin, but he does have major holes in his game, notably flat footed, movement troubles him, he doesn't have a great defense, has limited head movement.

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        • Canelo and GGG
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          #24
          Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
          But even resume is not a good argument for Garcia.

          He has questionable wins vs Theophane, Herrera AND Peterson. When you lose to those kind of fighters that doesn't make you a P4P fighter. If you lose to a P4P fighter that's understandable but when you lose to fighters you were supposed to win against...
          Good fighters close fights ,if GGG will beat Canelo by MD ,we should give him little credit?

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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #25
            Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
            Good fighters close fights ,if GGG will beat Canelo by MD ,we should give him little credit?
            Fighters who are not even close to being P4P. You can give him credit but not put him on P4P list for it. Once again, P4P is measurement of skills head to head vs other fighters.

            You can make a case for Garcia to be P4P but TOP FIVE? I don't think so.
            Last edited by .:: JSFD26 ::.; 03-04-2017, 12:45 PM.

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            • Canelo and GGG
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              #26
              Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
              Fighters who are not even close to being P4P. You can give him credit but not put him on P4P list for it. Once again, P4P is measurement of skills head to head vs other fighters.

              You can make a case for Garcia to be P4P but TOP FIVE? I don't think so.
              So you cant make case for Crawford or GGG either

              Lucas was higly rated before Garcia ,same with Khan ,GGG or Crawford didnt face fighters rated half as high at are said to be as top 5 the best boxers ,i dont buy it .

              thing about resume is ,we have it ,H2H? is just speculation ,eye test failed many times before ,one is sure great fighters have great resume.

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              • Brickyardigan
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                #27
                Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                Fighters who are not even close to being P4P. You can give him credit but not put him on P4P list for it. Once again, P4P is measurement of skills head to head vs other fighters.

                You can make a case for Garcia to be P4P but TOP FIVE? I don't think so.
                Bruh.. you are talking in and out your ass bruh. How you going to say P4P is a measurement of skills head to head vs other fighters but in the same breath say P4P is not based on resume?

                Seriously a fighter's resume is a great indicator as well as legitimate proof to someone being P4P. GGG and other bum killers are why you guys are talking bs on resumes. Plus there is no way to dispute a fighter if their resume is great and thats why yall dont want to talk resume. GGG and a bunch of others will not have a legitimate cause to be P4P once we talk resume but Garcia is up there comfortable.

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Brickyardigan
                  I always had Garcia in my top 5 P4P ever since he defeated Lucas Matthyse back in 2013. I remember that year where everyone was saying Garcia is a cherry picking coward like Mayweather and now both him and Mayweather was going to lose to the Machine and Cinnamon on Mexican Independence Day weekend. Both win and they still didnt get their just due. I was saying since if Garcia beat Matthyse, everyone should shut up and respect his crown and put him top 5.

                  People want to point to close decisions and little stepping stones as an excuse to not give him credit. However GGG and other bum killers populate everyones top 5. None of those guys except Ward and Kovalev have any argument to be above Garcia. Garcia has already answered questions and once again its the same narrative. All y'all doing is making another monster ala Floyd Mayweather. Wake up. DSG top 5 P4P.

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                  • techliam
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                    #29
                    Sure, if you want to look at the Peterson and Herrera fights and pass them off, refusing to think about them because of the official decision.

                    Don't expect anyone to respect your opinion on that, however.

                    Had the decisions gone the other way, you wouldn't think he's p4p no.5 or whatever at all. Those decisions could have easily gone the other way on a different night.

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                      #30
                      Where you got em now bruh?

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