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  • satiev1
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    #91
    Originally posted by icha
    williams was a jmw by the time he fought sergio, sergio him self was a jmw fighting at MW at those days, and you tried to compare williams to brook which clearly the williams win is a lot better than the brooks win which ggg says is his best win... let alone pavlik who is well above anyone on gigis resume....
    Brook is a better fighter than williams.

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      #92
      Originally posted by icha
      a MW whos best win is a WW is now considered among ATGs?? WTF...
      gigis best win is a welter weight he said that him self, thats how crappy his resume is...
      and by the way jacobs is a good win if it comes, but the guy isnt P4P or anything close... 160 is wack outside ggg...
      See this is why you're a ******. Hagler and hopkins best wins were ww's coming up in weight. Hagler beat a lightweight in duran and lost to leonard a ww who was not even a natural mw. Hopkins beat past prime de la hoya and trinidad who was not a natural mw.

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        #93
        Originally posted by HanzGruber
        Just cause he is number two doesn't make it great lmao wtf. Is crawford beating postol a GREAT win? It's good and his best win (just like Jacobs) that doesn't mean it's some atg win and pfp 1 worthy
        Lol jacobs is a much better fighter than postol.

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          #94
          I think he needs some fight of the year or fighter of the year awards, a very long reign either just below B-Hop's or beyond it, going undisputed, retiring unbeaten, and/or beating a HW champion.

          MW or historically approximate MW is just a very hard division to crack when it comes to all time greatness. Gennady can be great without resume if he does one of those things, but even if he did get FOTYs, had a long reign or beat a HW champion that'd just get him in the running. After that his resume comes into play, and honestly, let's say he did challenge Greb's HW accolade and beat a HW champion. Is there a present HW that can stand up to Tunney in resume worth? Let's say he challenges B-Hop's reign, are their MWs to stand up to Bernard's resume? Let's say he does get FOTY, is their a fighter that can best SRL's FOTY with Hearns or Haggler?

          I'm not hating on the guy, I'm a fan, but I just don't see him being widely accepted amongst the greats unless he combines some of those things.

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            #95
            Originally posted by HanzGruber
            Just cause he is number two doesn't make it great lmao wtf. Is crawford beating postol a GREAT win? It's good and his best win (just like Jacobs) that doesn't mean it's some atg win and pfp 1 worthy
            You just proved my point. GGG is so great to you, he makes Jacobs look so bad. You're a huge 3G fan doe. Just admit it.

            I'm going for Jacobs and I've got 1 trillion left (the rest was already used for other fights), why don't you triple them if GGG loses. Deal?
            Last edited by al-Xander; 03-04-2017, 08:13 PM.

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              #96
              His all time standing still won't be great because he's a victim of a poor era at middleweight with no chance at very notable wins in his division.

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                #97
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                You just proved my point. GGG is so great to you, he makes Jacobs look so bad. You're a huge 3G fan doe. Just admit it.

                I'm going for Jacobs and I've got 1 trillion left (the rest was already used for other fights), why don't you triple them if GGG loses. Deal?
                I never said gg is a bum. Dude where the *** is your logic? He's top 10 pfp, Jacobs isn't a great win for him just like it wouldn't be for Canelo. Not sure what's so difficult

                And I don't bet points I don't see the point

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by satiev1
                  See this is why you're a ******. Hagler and hopkins best wins were ww's coming up in weight. Hagler beat a lightweight in duran and lost to leonard a ww who was not even a natural mw. Hopkins beat past prime de la hoya and trinidad who was not a natural mw.
                  Oscar neither tito were ww when they fought hopkins, brook is still a ww today... those two didnt go from 147 to 160 for the fight, brook did, but a ****** like you will ignore the difference... dragging a ww 13 lbs is no accomplishment, is a shame and it was a shame when canelo did it too...

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by satiev1
                    Lol jacobs is a much better fighter than postol.
                    I totally dosagree, but i even if it was true,
                    You can say pac is better than charlo, but that doesnt make him a better win if the fight takes place at 154 or 160... there are weight classes for a reason you ******...
                    Last edited by icha; 03-05-2017, 08:54 AM.

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                      #100
                      Well let's see Mr. Drama Show. You said this

                      Originally posted by bigdramashow
                      PBP always talks **** more like. I go by boxrecnot transnational ranking whatever the **** that is. Rankings look abysmal on that site. Whos povetkin beat please? Marco huck almost beat him lol. And how long is wilder gonna get a free pass for cause he once signed up to fight povetkin? You still gonna be trotting out that line in 2020 when zelenoff is still the best name on his resume?
                      According to you, you go by BoxRec rankings. So since that's your thing, why not be consistent..,

                      According to the fair and objective BoxRec computer, GGG is **drum roll**

                      THE 76TH RANKED MIDDLEWEIGHT OF ALL-TIME

                      http://boxrec.com/records/60


                      So I think, a win over Jacobs should move him above at least Al Neil or Dave Smith.

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