Comments Thread For: Golovkin: I Respect Chavez Jr. More, Canelo Gave Me His Belt!

[Lester Tutor]

... anyway, Oscar has a rematch clause in case of "accident"...

... and Jr ran away from TR when he had to face GGG...

When he had to? Right, most TR boxers left TR because they had to face opponents they didn't want. Clown post

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[MantisToboggan]

So basically this just confirms that Andre Ward offer at 164 was just to drain him. What a hypocrite

lil d1k Pu$$yNello fans quick to bring up coWard son of gift into the thread whenever diva's skirt gets pulled - hahahahahaha

[kafkod]

He wasn't asking for a 50-50 when Canelo was the champ. Remember it was going to a purse bid and Canelo had a sizable advantage in the split. He withdrew when the purse bid was coming up.

There's no evidence at all that K2 were aiming for a purse bid when Canelo was champ. A bid would only happen if no deal could be negotiated, and Canelo's team have never once mentioned that as a reason for vacating.

Canelo said he vacated because he didn't want to negotiate to a 15 day deadline, which was bull****. The WBC would have extended that deadline if Oscar and Loeffler had asked them to.

And its not like the WBC suddenly sprung this on Canelo out of nowhere. He knew before he even fought Cotto that he would have to fight GGG if he won, and he'd been stalling and pissing around for a whole year before the WBC gave him a deadline.

[kafkod]

Canelo dropped the title because of Golovkin getting 45%.

Lying troll. You know GGG wouldn't have got 45% of a purse bid because I've posted links to the WBC rules on that multiple times.

The rule giving an interim champ 45% was removed in 2013. Here are the current WBC rules on division of money in a purse bid.

"2.17 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of all sanction fees payable to the WBC hereunder) shall be divided as follows:

(a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger in title bouts; and

(b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts; provided, however, that the WBC Board of Governors, may by a majority vote, authorize a modification of the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, such as consideration of outstanding marketing value of one of the
boxers, as the WBC shall determine in its sole discretion.

The modification of the split shall be limited to 60-40% and 55-45%, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%."

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WB...anuary2014.pdf

GGG would have got 30% if it had gone to a bid, and there's no evidence that Loeffler was trying to take it to a bid. Don't you think Canelo would have let everybody know about that, if it was true?

[Robbie Barrett]

Lying troll. You know GGG wouldn't have got 45% of a purse bid because I've posted links to the WBC rules on that multiple times.

Here are the current WBC rules on division of money in a purse bid. The rule giving an interim champ 45% was removed in 2013.

"2.17 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of all sanction fees payable to the WBC hereunder) shall be divided as follows:

(a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger in title bouts; and

(b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts; provided, however, that the WBC Board of Governors, may by a majority vote, authorize a modification of the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, such as consideration of outstanding marketing value of one of the
boxers, as the WBC shall determine in its sole discretion.

The modification of the split shall be limited to 60-40% and 55-45%, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%."

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WB...anuary2014.pdf

GGG would have got 30% if it had gone to a bid, and there's no evidence that Loeffler was trying to take it to bid. Don't you think Canelo would have let everybody know about that, if it was true?

Champion v Interim is 55/45.

Don't believe me here's the WBC president saying it.


"Bellew asked for an exception to face David Haye and be allowed to keep his title until after that fight. No. 1 contender Mairis Breidis and No. 2 Marco Huck have been mandated to face each other to become the interim champion. Both sides were happy to work together to make the fight; they have 30 days to come to an agreement.

Huck’s representative asked that if Bellew loses and goes back to cruiserweight that the Breidis-Huck winner vs. Bellew to be a 50-50 purse split. Sulaiman explained that the rule is 55-45 for the champion."


http://www.******.com/477450-wbc-ann...y-challengers/

[Graz]

Golovkin just telling it like it is. Oscar manipulated Canelo into giving up the belt but like it or not Canelo has to deal with losing face over it. Can't blame Oscar for wanting to protect his cash cow. It's just business to GB. Canelo just fell into line.

[bluemax]

Canelo and his team's action said it all. They ran off at the mouth then just ran giving his Middleweight title to GGG. Canelo is a businessman first and a fighter second. Both he and his team deemed it way to risky to fight GGG in his prime and the smart move was to follow in the footsteps of most of the top middleweighs and that was to talk about beating GGG then avoiding him at all costs. Real fight fans understand this and expect Canelo will fight GGG after he is way past his prime when there is a small chance Canelo can win. After risking fighting a past his prime Mayweather and getting embarrassed they couldn't afford another loss. This fight with Chavez is a joke!!! Chavez has to lose so much weight he'll be completely drained yet quite a few experts still are picking him. Kind of tells you what a lot of the experts think of Canelo.

[Bushbaby]

They should stop calling people boxing fans and start calling them unpaid accountants. Or duck justifiers.

Cause it's duck justifying arguing over numbers and catchweights when to champs at the same weightclass are supposed to throw down.

Canelo didn't give up his belts because he didn't want to pay GGG. He would have made more money anyway, a lot more.

He didn't give up his belts because he wasn't a middleweight. The mvther****er is fighting at 164.5 in a couple months.

Canelo gave GGG his belt cause he didn't want that work and Oscar wanted to keep his golden duck safe.

[kafkod]

Champion v Interim is 55/45.

Don't believe me here's the WBC president saying it.


"Bellew asked for an exception to face David Haye and be allowed to keep his title until after that fight. No. 1 contender Mairis Breidis and No. 2 Marco Huck have been mandated to face each other to become the interim champion. Both sides were happy to work together to make the fight; they have 30 days to come to an agreement.

Huck’s representative asked that if Bellew loses and goes back to cruiserweight that the Breidis-Huck winner vs. Bellew to be a 50-50 purse split. Sulaiman explained that the rule is 55-45 for the champion."


http://www.******.com/477450-wbc-ann...y-challengers/

That was because of this provision:

"50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts; provided, however, that the WBC Board of Governors, may by a majority vote, authorize a modification of the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, such as consideration of outstanding marketing value of one of the
boxers, as the WBC shall determine in its sole discretion."


Huck asked the WBC for 50% based on that provision, and the WBC gave him 45%.

There were no unusual or special circumstance with Canelo and GGG, and the consideration of outstanding marketing value clearly would not have applied to GGG vs Canelo, who was a massive "A side" over Golovkin when he still had the WBC title.

I've posted the latest amendment of WBC's own rules on purse bids, and the rule entitling the interim champ to 45% has been removed.