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  • #11
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
    Canelo is the Lineal champ why would the Ring not recognise him as such?
    Why wouldn't they? LOL. Again, bolded for your simple mind to grasp.

    Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
    How? Because Oscar owns it and Canelo is a Golden Boy fighter that's their cash cow, raking in over 90% of their $ annually. It's a conflict of interest and politics that are allowing him to keep their "lineal" title. Canelo changed weight classes by fighting Liam Smith at 154 (JMW) and now he's fighting JCC Jr. at a catchweight within the Super Middleweight weight range. He's never even fought at the Middleweight upper limit of 160, yet, he's recognized as the Middleweight lineal champion.

    The Ring lost virtually all of its credibility years ago, especially after they controversially changed their lineal championship policy in 2012. This is why the TBRB was formed by former members of The Ring's board.
    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
    ^^^^^^^ This right here.
    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
    Oscar owns the ring and he promotes Canelo. It's as simple as that. Exactly which elite fighter 160 pounds or less beats GGG? If the only way you think you can get GGG beat is by using fighters from higher weight classes than 160 that makes GGG an elite fighter himself. Jacobs is a world champion with a 12 KO win streak. He KOed Quillen in 1 round and twice KOed Mora. Neither Quillen nor Mora had ever been KOed before. Why is Jacobs not elite?
    Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
    Yes, I'm a fool for not knowing that they meant permanently. Canelo's ACTIONS speak louder than any words ("I'm moving to [insert division here] now"). But let me guess, you don't think that there's a conflict of interest in The Ring being owned by Oscar and GBP also being Canelo's promoter, and in turn, he's their cash cow?

    You're daft and very gullible. I pity you. Stick to playing video games.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
      Why wouldn't they? LOL. Again, bolded for your simple mind to grasp.
      No rules have been broken.. TNBR still recognises he's Lineal. He should be stripped just because he's with Goldenboy? WTF are you ******ed?

      You quoting a bunch of known Golovkin ****riders does nothing for your case.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 02-26-2017, 11:15 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
        No rules have been broken.. TNBR still recognises he's Lineal. He should be stripped just because he's with Goldenboy? WTF are you ******ed?

        You quoting a bunch of known Golovkin ****riders does nothing for your case.
        It's the TBRB, not TNRB. Secondly, they still do for now but based on one of their founder's recent statements, it's not likely to be for much longer. I already stated that the TBRB still recognizes him as lineal so you're regurgitating what I told you.

        The reality is that professional boxing is a business first, sport second, and Canelo is being shown blatant favoritism. Several fighters over the years have lost their lineal status from The Ring for much less than what Canelo's been doing lately. Canelo's gaming the system and you fell for it. Congratulations on believing such a farce.

        If you would like to consider Canelo as still the Middleweight lineal champ, then by all means, please do. Just know that he refused to fight the clear #2 rated fighter in The Ring's rankings, gave up his WBC title to him and started division jumping. His catchweight nonsense and the conflict of interest that's clearly there is all the more reason to not consider him lineal. The man doesn't even hold a MINOR world title (ie., IBO) let alone a major world title in the division he's still recognized as lineal champion in. Let that sink in.
        Last edited by Pugilisticuffs; 02-26-2017, 11:41 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
          It's the TBRB, not TNRB. Secondly, they still do for now but based on one of their founder's recent statements, it's not likely to be for much longer. I already stated that the TBRB still recognizes him as lineal so you're regurgitating what I told you.

          The reality is that professional boxing is a business first, sport second, and Canelo is being shown blatant favoritism. Several fighters over the years have lost their lineal status from The Ring for much less than what Canelo's been doing lately. Canelo's gaming the system and you fell for it. Congratulations on believing such a farce.
          So every source that lists Canelo as lineal is showing favouritism? GTFO silly ****, Canelo is lineal and there's nothing wrong with the Ring recognising that aswell. Cry all you want but Golovkin will have to actually fight for that title.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
            It's the TBRB, not TNRB. Secondly, they still do for now but based on one of their founder's recent statements, it's not likely to be for much longer. I already stated that the TBRB still recognizes him as lineal so you're regurgitating what I told you.

            The reality is that professional boxing is a business first, sport second, and Canelo is being shown blatant favoritism. Several fighters over the years have lost their lineal status from The Ring for much less than what Canelo's been doing lately. Canelo's gaming the system and you fell for it. Congratulations on believing such a farce.

            If you would like to consider Canelo as still the Middleweight lineal champ, then by all means, please do. Just know that he refused to fight the clear #2 rated fighter in The Ring's rankings, gave up his WBC title to him and started division jumping. His catchweight nonsense and the conflict of interest that's clearly there is all the more reason to not consider him lineal. The man doesn't even hold a MINOR world title (ie., IBO) let alone a major world title in the division he's still recognized as lineal champion in. Let that sink in.
            Lineal was created because of titles being stripped out of the ring. That #2 fighter has the oppurtunity to fight the Lineal champion in September.

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            • #16
              Erm....he is the champion.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                So every source that lists Canelo as lineal is showing favouritism? GTFO silly ****, Canelo is lineal and there's nothing wrong with the Ring recognising that aswell. Cry all you want but Golovkin will have to actually fight for that title.
                Canelo is debatably (here we are) lineal champion right now. What aren't you getting? You're thick. The Ring also has Linares as lineal when he really isn't. He didn't beat the #2 ranked fighter. That's how the TBRB works, #1 & #2 have to fight if there's a vacancy. The Ring is far too flexible in their championship policy which is why it's a joke and they lost credibility ages ago. You can't even link to their website here without it being filtered & replaced with asterisks, ******. Golovkin is the consensus unified champion & Canelo is technically still the lineal champ despite holding 0 major world titles from any of the 4 major IBHOF recognized sanctioning bodies.

                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                Lineal was created because of titles being stripped out of the ring. That #2 fighter has the oppurtunity to fight the Lineal champion in September.
                In reality Golovkin is rated higher than Canelo. He's been a unified champion for years and is about to break the Middleweight defense record. Meanwhile, Canelo has yet to even compete at 160 pounds lol. You're a comedian. Just because Oscar says they'll fight in September doesn't mean ****. Again, it shows just how gullible you are. Canelo IS Golden Boy! He makes up over 90% of Golden Boy's annual revenue stream and that's a fact. The Ring's credibility was "counted out" years ago.

                YDKSAB
                Last edited by Pugilisticuffs; 02-27-2017, 12:43 AM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
                  Canelo is disputably lineal champion. What aren't you getting? You're thick. The Ring also has Linares as lineal when he really isn't. He didn't beat the #2 ranked fighter. That's how the TBRB works, #1 & #2 have to fight if there's a vacancy. The Ring is far too flexible in their championship policy which is why it's a joke and they lost credibility ages ago. You can't even link to their website here without it being filtered & replaced with asterisks, ******. Golovkin is the consensus unified champion & Canelo is technically still the lineal champ despite holding 0 major world titles from any of the 4 major IBHOF recognized sanctioning bodies.



                  In reality Golovkin is rated higher than Canelo. He's been a unified champion for years and is about to break the Middleweight defense record. Meanwhile, Canelo has yet to even compete at 160 pounds lol. You're a comedian. Just because Oscar says they'll fight in September doesn't mean ****. Again, it shows just how gullible you are. Canelo IS Golden Boy. He makes up over 90% of Golden Boy's annual revenue stream and that's a fact. The Ring's credibility was "counted out" years ago.

                  YDKSAB
                  Canelo beat the champ who beat the champ, there's nothing disputeable about it ******. Golovkin won't be lineal by beating Jacobs. You and the rest of the Lil G tards can cry all you want it isn't going to change a thing. The history books won't record Golovkin as lineal champion. DEAL WITH IT.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                    Because the Ring is supposed to try and follow Lineal champions. Lineal was created because of fighters losing titles outside the ring. Stripping a fighter goes against why "Lineal" was created. No rules have been broken.

                    Canelo is the Lineal MW champ every boxing site recognises him as such, why wouldn't the ring?
                    "Lineal was created"? The lineal champ is supposed to be traceable back to when there was just one champion for each division as in 'title lineage'. That's why it also has flaws, cuz it gets vacated all the time when fighters retire or relinquish the title. For example, the lineal middleweight title has been vacated over 10 times throughout history...even the lineal title gets won as a vacant title.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                      "Lineal was created"? The lineal champ is supposed to be traceable back to when there was just one champion for each division as in 'title lineage'. That's why it also has flaws, cuz it gets vacated all the time when fighters retire or relinquish the title. For example, the lineal middleweight title has been vacated over 10 times throughout history...even the lineal title gets won as a vacant title.
                      Yes.

                      The concept of a lineal champion was developed by boxing fans dissatisfied by the tendency of each of the various sanctioning bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, etc.) to recognize different champions, and in particular to strip a champion of his title for refusing to fight its top-ranked contender. Prior to the 1970s, this rarely happened; the National Boxing Association (NBA) and the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) sometimes recognized different champions, but there was usually only a short interval before one champion defeated the other. In this era, a title vacancy was generally filled by having a single-elimination tournament box-off between two or more top-ranked contenders. The lineal championship is intended as a return to that era. Several top boxers have specified holding the lineal championship as a personal accomplishment (e.g. Lennox Lewis[3]) or goal (e.g., Nate Campbell[1]).

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineal...ionship#Boxing

                      Stripping Canelo would go against why it was created. Silly Golovtards.

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