This sums up Andre Ward perfectly, he'll never be respected, EVER

[Jewish-Reptile]

There's a 10 year old on YouTube that runs his own boxing channel named Max (MiniMaxBoxing) and he'd school you without even breaking a sweat when it comes to boxing. Go read the first post I made when I signed up, it's a thread. You'll stop arguing with me once you realize I know 100x more about boxing than you do. Check out the thread. I actually understand how everything works at the highest level.

Now, I'm being serious when I say that even the most ardent Ward supporters know and claim that he lost round 10, they just didn't know that if they gave Kovalev round 10 Ward would lose on the official scorecards turned in by the NSAC judges (would be 114-113 Kov). The punch count was 28 to 17 in that round, Kovalev. He was also the ring general and effective aggressor. You know, all of that secondary scoring criteria that only matters if a round is too close to call. About 90% of what judges look for is clean, effective punching. You would need to be a genius to score a boxing match if it wasn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwxLZ3jv0E8

Ward clearly lost round 10. Get some glasses and learn how to score a boxing match round by round.

We've found him gents, The Boxing Xpert has returned.

[Larry the boss]

Lineal at 168

unified champ at 175

Olympic gold medal winner

multi millionaire

p4p top 3 fighter



I SAY HE HAS HAD A DAMN GOOD JOURNEY

[Eff Pandas]

Ward doesn't excite fans. Well yea I don't see whats to argue here.

He's not the most exciting guy to watch. He isn't the most engaging personality. He's not flashy in or out of the ring.

That doesn't mean he's not worth watching or that he doesn't deserve respect for what he's done. But yea he's kinda f#cking boring as a man & boxer, in & out of the ring. He seems like a nice enough guy doe so theres that I guess.

[Pugilisticuffs]

If they are so patrioting then why all these American celebrities were all routing for Pacquiao? You want me to give you video evidence of that as well?

Why these white tv analysts like Max Kellerman not putting pressure on GGG to move up but that same Max putting pressure on Floyd and Crawford to move up? You want video evidence of that?

I don't need video evidence to tell you why. It only takes some common sense. Pac is a much more exciting fighter than Floyd, at least when comparing him to "Money May". When Floyd was PBF he was far more exciting because his hands were still good.

Kellerman is the exact opposite of a pro-white individual, we'll call it that. Do you even know Kellerman's history? He's been on black D since even before he got his start in journalism and commentary. Back in 1994 he released a gangster rap video with his brother (RIP to him) and rapped about nothing but black and hispanic fighters. You're a fool. Here's a clip of their music video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW-mK5KQ4Pc

Here is the full gangster rap song with album cover art, no video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0DntqwMKg

SMH. Noobs.

[Sledgeweather17]

I don't need video evidence to tell you why. It only takes some common sense. Pac is a much more exciting fighter than Floyd, at least when comparing him to "Money May". When Floyd was PBF he was much more exciting because his hands were still good.

Kellerman is the exact opposite of a pro-white individual, we'll call it that. Do you even know Kellerman's history? He's been on black D since even before he got his start in journalism and commentary. Back in 1994 he released a rap video with his brother (RIP to him) and rapped about nothing but black and hispanic fighters. You're a fool. Here's a clip of their rap video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW-mK5KQ4Pc

SMH. Noobs.

Wait! So being exciting is just cause for these 'patriotic' americans to turn on their own? Wow, how patriotic is that! Clown!

Max Kellerman is sweet science scholar at heart, I know that, that doesn't mean he didn't do the things he did. Fact is, HBO white supremists put pressure on Ward and Crawford to move up, but not on GGG. Fact is, your fake patriots turned on their own and supported Pac because they couldn't stand black man Floyd being as successful as he was. Max Kellerman and others are the face of HBO, and they are pushing those directives, plain and simple.

[Pugilisticuffs]

Wait! So being exciting is just cause for these 'patriotic' americans to turn on their own? Wow, how patriotic is that! Clown!

Max Kellerman is sweet science scholar at heart, I know that, that doesn't mean he didn't do the things he did. Fact is, HBO white supremists put pressure on Ward and Crawford to move up, but not on GGG. Fact is, your fake patriots turned on their own and supported Pac because they couldn't stand black man Floyd being as successful as he was. Max Kellerman and others are the face of HBO, and they are pushing those directives, plain and simple.

Being exciting matters in the BUSINESS of professional boxing. Who's the clown again? Oh, right. In Pac's comeback fight he fought Jessie Vargas, a second tier fighter. HBO wanted none of it despite Pac being an exciting ATG PPV-level fighter (though less exciting over the last few years). Top Rank did their own PPV instead and picked up its production because HBO told Arum & Team Pacquiao "Not interested. We'll pass."

Take the tinfoil hat off, chief. Back in the days of Ali it was Arum pushing minority fighters at the time, like Ali who he promoted, directly into the spotlight. He was signing minority fighters specifically, that's out of his own mouth. Back then the racial tension was much worse than it is now. You're a conspiracy theorist. For starters, Ward signed a contract with HBO to build up a fight with Kovalev. He could no longer make SMW after the layoff so he was forced to move up. Nobody ever forced him to get paid 5 million to fight Kovalev lol.

And Crawford, he hasn't even moved up yet and his next fight is still at 140. He's been planning to move up because he's big for the division and come fight night he's heavy. Mikey Garcia is also going to be moving up to a division more natural for him, and that's Junior Welterweight (140). If/when Crawford does move up then he'll have no white fighters to potentially lose to in the Top 10, unless Horn somehow beats Pac and then they fight. Look at every respected Top 10 Welterweight list right now and you won't see a single white fighter at this time on there. You pulled the race card and I pulled out common sense to defeat your bs.

[Johnny2x2x]

Guy cleaned out 168 and then went up in weight to fight an undefeated power puncher at 175. And this was after he begged the 160lb champ who is also a KO artist to come up and fight him. This should all be applauded.

He won a close fight vs Kovalev, and he should give him a rematch. It for anyone to say he hasn't been a monster is an idiot.

[Pugilisticuffs]

Guy cleaned out 168 and then went up in weight to fight an undefeated power puncher at 175. And this was after he begged the 160lb champ who is also a KO artist to come up and fight him. This should all be applauded.

He won a close fight vs Kovalev, and he should give him a rematch. It for anyone to say he hasn't been a monster is an idiot.

No, he didn't clean out Super Middleweight. He won the Super Six tournament and was the lineal champ, the WBA "Super" & WBC titleholder. He was unified & lineal but he didn't hold the IBF or WBO world titles. If he had "cleaned out" SMW then he would've been undisputed.

[Marchegiano]

Intelligent and powerful post

Very much appreciated. Couldn't have done it without the right prompt though.

[Marchegiano]

True indeed, good post. The only difference id speak to is with the globalization of the game, now you don't have to fake your hatred there are alternatives. You can applaud your European fighters because they are champs and feel justified, but your deeper sentiment is thinly veiled. It's a ****** mentality that is strengthening by the generation. I hate that other nations get to see our xenophobia so plainly while we don't even acknowledge it

That's actually quite interesting. Old world grudges are reflected in who fans support. Ya know I can think of plenty of examples but nothing to counter it. I reckon you are right.