This sums up Andre Ward perfectly, he'll never be respected, EVER

[Pugilisticuffs]

Wrong again, try watching the round. Kovalev misses with his wildest shot of the night and Ward is countering every opening, Klincher may have outlanded him certainly threw more but the defence and timing of Ward is a level above Kovalev, look for what the judges look for and it's CLEARLY a Ward round, narrow but clear.

The judges have the best seats in the house, they're not coerced by HBO commentary like fools with no idea how to score and are certainly above biases, you're tryin to tell me all three judges were bent or that they didnt see that Ward clearly won the round when all three were in agreement ?

You're doing some wild reaching here, carry on its amusing.

Do you understand or have any perception of scoring criteria ?

There's a 10 year old on YouTube that runs his own boxing channel named Max (MiniMaxBoxing) and he'd school you without even breaking a sweat when it comes to boxing. Go read the first post I made when I signed up, it's a thread. You'll stop arguing with me once you realize I know 100x more about boxing than you do. Check out the thread. I actually understand how everything works at the highest level.

Now, I'm being serious when I say that even the most ardent Ward supporters know and claim that he lost round 10, they just didn't know that if they gave Kovalev round 10 Ward would lose on the official scorecards turned in by the NSAC judges (would be 114-113 Kov). The punch count was 28 to 17 in that round, Kovalev. He was also the ring general and effective aggressor. You know, all of that secondary scoring criteria that only matters if a round is too close to call. About 90% of what judges look for is clean, effective punching. You would need to be a genius to score a boxing match if it wasn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwxLZ3jv0E8

Ward clearly lost round 10. Get some glasses and learn how to score a boxing match round by round.

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Most wanted him to win, hence the reason they were desperate for him too. Nothing more to be seen. I can't tell if they're genuine Kovalev fan boys or Ward haters, one thing I believe is though is that the core of the media and biased HBO commentary team were rooting for Kovalev and didn't like that Ward proved them all wrong.

The 90% American boxing media is biased for Kovalev? Think I've seen it all now.

I saw a close fight where the knockdown and force of the punches could have swung public perception Kovalev's favor. Not a lot was proven. Rematch necessary.

[Pugilisticuffs]

This doesn't prove anything. Majority of Americans are white and then there is also a large hispanic population in America. That is why most of them were rooting for Manny against Floyd and for GGG and Krusher against Ward. That is also why they tried to make as if Floyd, a welterweight, was ducking GGG, a career middleweight. There's nothing new hear, Americans (whites) discrediting and routing against fellow Americans (blacks) has been happening since the beginning of time.

Just go into an Anthony Joshua or Wilder thread and see how much unreasonable hate is being spewed and how much salt there is at their success. Look how much salt is being directed at the welterweight and junior middleweight divisions as well. You know why? Coz they dominated by blacks.

Bud gets a little less hate than most of em, but I bet if he left HBO and/or Bob Arum and went to PBC you would see a mountain of hate directed at him.

The majority of Americans are also considered very patriotic. Would you like to see a poll and accompanying study on that too? I'm American btw. Maybe I'll link you to the in-arena footage where they're chanting "SOG!" and think he's landing even when he isn't and cheering it. Americans in Vegas were not rooting for an obscure Russian that speaks broken English and likes to punish his North American opponents. That's a fact. The video footage proves it and common sense does as well.

[daggum]

Much of the boxing public stills hates Floyd far more exponentially than Ward. If Kovalev were to lose shockingly in upcoming fights, it only elevates Ward's game and benefit of the doubt. For Kova, that strategy was as good as it gets. Bhop got dropped, Kova tried. Went 12. How do we compare Ward's performance to Bhop or Chilemba? Day and Night. And lanky krusher had no answers.

Red White and Blue. All day all night baby.

chilemba def did better. he boxed with kov on even terms from the outside just couldnt hndle the big punches. ward was severely outclassed but landed a couple low blows and body shots so he won lmao. if chilembas name was andre ward he would be champ right now and you would be defending him saying kov had no answers to chilembas jab or something similar

[daggum]

How many fighters do you know that have won a golden medal and held a lineal belt?

Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Sugar Ray Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Andre Ward

ward was gifted everything. i saw him get beat up in one of his olympic fights but he still won somehow. super six was obviously rigged in his favor as he had every fight in his home country while froch had to fight in 4 dif countries for example without hometown help. the kovalev fight was clearly a robbery. if ward wasnt from the usa and had the same "skills" he would be isaac chilemba.

[Sledgeweather17]

The majority of Americans are also considered very patriotic. Would you like to see a poll and accompanying study on that too? I'm American btw. Maybe I'll link you to the in-arena footage where they're chanting "SOG!" and think he's landing even when he isn't and cheering it. Americans in Vegas were not rooting for an obscure Russian that speaks broken English and likes to punish his North American opponents. That's a fact. The video footage proves it and common sense does as well.

If they are so patrioting then why all these American celebrities were all routing for Pacquiao? You want me to give you video evidence of that as well?

Why these white tv analysts like Max Kellerman not putting pressure on GGG to move up but that same Max putting pressure on Floyd and Crawford to move up? You want video evidence of that?

[Humean]

Few people are ever going to warm to a paranoid sulk of a man. It is all a self-fulfilling prophecy with him. You know your sense of reality is warped when you think that all of your own nationals are supporting a Russian and that said Russian has somehow had everything easier than you. I mean we're bordering on mental-illness here.

[daggum]

Few people are every going to warm to a paranoid sulk of a man. It is all a self-fulfilling prophecy with him. You know your sense of reality is warped when you think that all of your own nationals are supporting a Russian and that said Russian has somehow had everything easier than you. I mean we're bordering on mental-illness here.

guy moves from russia to a different country where he doesnt even speak the language. fights for 500 dollars a fight with no major promoter...to ward "hes had it so easy!" meanwhile hes being gifted gold medals, has the super six setup in his favor, gets gift decisions etc...I HAD TO WORK FOR WHAT I GOT!

[jmrf4435]

Few people are ever going to warm to a paranoid sulk of a man. It is all a self-fulfilling prophecy with him. You know your sense of reality is warped when you think that all of your own nationals are supporting a Russian and that said Russian has somehow had everything easier than you. I mean we're bordering on mental-illness here.

looooooooool harsh but kinda true. I was a huge ward fan after the super 6 as well

[Jewish-Reptile]

The 90% American boxing media is biased for Kovalev? Think I've seen it all now.

I saw a close fight where the knockdown and force of the punches could have swung public perception Kovalev's favor. Not a lot was proven. Rematch necessary.

Biased against Ward, and who said ninety percent US ? I heard 75 percent of all media writers had Kovalev all of which neither had the seats nor the qualifications the actual judges in attendance had and have.