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  • #81
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
    It's a fight Golovkin should win comfortably. Jacobs isn't that good. You're the ****** if you think it's a 50/50 fight.
    So you're admitting you're a huge GGG fan, eh? Only the #2 P4P Ward could beat him at Andre's weight. Got it.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by BreWall View Post
      So you're admitting you're a huge GGG fan, eh? Only the #2 P4P Ward could beat him at Andre's weight. Got it.
      Canelo beats him too. I saw the same **** when Golovkin fought Lemieux people trying to build Lemieux up as some A level fighter. Jacobs isn't really a threat, Golovkin fans want people to think he is so they can claim it as a great win.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 02-21-2017, 01:24 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
        Nope. I've said all along Jacobs is B-level and does little for Golovkins resume. I said Jacobs should have accepted 25% too because he isn't a draw.
        All due respect Isaac, but I disagree.

        The level part, not the draw part.

        I have Jacobs in that purgatory between very good and elite.

        This fight, win or lose, is as much a statement for him as Lil g.

        IMO, you don't do what he did to Quillen and not be a bit more than B-level.

        And say what you want about Mora, but Danny is the only guy to stop him.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Thaman2x View Post
          2 points
          1. I'm a boxing enthusiast who can certainly QUALIFY who is a REAL champion given empirics.. In other words, history speaks for itself. You're mentioning Monzon and Hagler as examples of fighters that stayed at middleweight...How about the abundance of other fighters who didn't? Again, how about Leonard, Spinks, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hank Armstrong, Roy Jones? Hell, you can even give Amir Khan and Kell Brook credit for jumping UP a weight class and daring to be great....

          You're attempting to defend GGG being at MW and being great there... But you're not mentioning the face that 1 & 2 weight classes up, there's an abundance of talent that awaits him. Does he dare to be great? I bet you were in favor of Floyd moving up to fight GGG, huh?
          When you consider the tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands of pro boxers that have existed over the decades there is really only a handful of boxers (such as those you mentioned) who have moved up to challenge themselves and been successful.

          There are many others who have been forced to move up as they can no longer make weight. Most recent example Charlo, Ward* and Broner. Golovkin, apparently, is not one of those.
          * Ward was also obliged to move up to get decent paydays.

          There have been a good few who have moved up for paydays. Brook and Khan among them.

          And yet there are boxers like Hagler and Monzon who are considered all time greats who stayed at the same weight. You can't deny it. And I do recognize that SMW didn't exist in their time. But Hagler especially benefited from greats at lower weights moving up to MW.

          Why does Golovkin or any fighter need to dare to be great? All you critics are the first to point out that he is hyped, that he isn't that great and his resume is crap. Then you ask a ****** question like why doesn't he move up. Why would he if he is crap?

          Besides, he is in it for the money like any other good pro and there is far more money around MW (15Million) than up at SMW (2-3 million) or LHW (5 million?)

          And no, newby, I have never supported that he fight Floyd at even 154, much less at 160.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            Canelo beats him too. I saw the same **** when Golovkin fought Lemieux people trying to build Lemieux up as some A level fighter. Jacobs isn't really a threat, Golovkin fans want people to think he is so they can claim it as a great win.
            Jacobs is a bigger threat than Canelito.

            Alvarez won't go near the big guys at 154...let alone the ones at 160.

            Jacobs easilly destroys lil overrated red.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              I don't think the matchmaking is "calculated"

              Ggg just has had trouble getting top guys to fight..
              Guys like Murray, Jacobs, brook etc had no issues signing on the dotted line
              top guys like who??

              Name them.

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              • #87
                Nobody wanted to fight him. Those who did got demolished. He accepted all challenges, he ducked no Middleweight. He is a Middleweight and nothing more.This is why we have weight classes. End of Story.

                What more could he have possibly done. Kill a man?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                  top guys like who??

                  Name them.
                  Middleweight
                  Sergio Martinez
                  Chavez jr at the time
                  Miguel cotto
                  Saul canelo Alvarez
                  Felix strum

                  Super middle
                  Carl froch ducked

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by chirorickyp View Post
                    Nobody wanted to fight him. Those who did got demolished. He accepted all challenges, he ducked no Middleweight. He is a Middleweight and nothing more.This is why we have weight classes. End of Story.

                    What more could he have possibly done. Kill a man?
                    Not true.

                    Those that did want to fight him...MOST were already demolished previously.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by mrbigshot View Post
                      Middleweight
                      Sergio Martinez
                      Chavez jr at the time
                      Miguel cotto
                      Saul canelo Alvarez
                      Felix strum

                      Super middle
                      Carl froch ducked
                      Martinez never ducked him...nor did Froch.

                      Cotto was not a MW
                      Canelo is not a MW

                      Felix Sturm...ahh yes...the guy that was KTFO by shot to hell 154lb Javier Castilejo

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