Comments Thread For: Thurman: Garcia Never Fought a True Welter, I Will Hurt Him!

[John Locke]

I was kind ofr shocked how the much, much smaller Guerrero was the more aggressor than Thurman. Thurman was fighting backwards almost the entire fight? It was kind of funny to watch the small guy walking thurman down. Dumb game plan IMO and the reason why he got his @ss handed to him.

Either you didn't watch the fight or you don't know what you were watching.

Thurman was more aggressive than Guerrero for the first 9 rounds. He fought on the backfoot from 10-12, after he somewhat punched himself out trying to finish Guerrero in the 9th. If winning 10/11 out of 12 rounds is your idea of getting your ass handed to you, you're obviously a bit slow.

Danny on the other hand fought on the backfoot for the entire fight, nothing wrong with that of course, but this is a case of seeing what you want to see. Complete delusion.

[hammyholdup]

Yeah, share with me the great fighters that Brook,Spence,and Crawford have beaten or sthu

Just watch how Spence and Brook and Crawford perform when matched with Thur or danny. Paq beats both of the two vastly overrated hype jobs Thur and Danny boy.

[frantic fighter]

Just watch how Spence and Brook and Crawford perform when matched with Thur or danny. Paq beats both of the two vastly overrated hype jobs Thur and Danny boy.

I reckon Pacquiao will have his hands full with that Australian fella he's been avoiding like the plague. He's pretty much shot,lights are on nobody's home that type of thing. It would be awful for Arum to feed him to a young lion, absolutely terrible. I think both Golovkin and all those years of weight draining have ruined Brook,he'll be lucky to hold a respectable belt the rest of his career. Spence is another weight bully that's beat nothing but cans we'll have to see how his whiskers are before I can make a real observation.

[Lester Tutor]

Either you didn't watch the fight or you don't know what you were watching.

Thurman was more aggressive than Guerrero for the first 9 rounds. He fought on the backfoot from 10-12, after he somewhat punched himself out trying to finish Guerrero in the 9th. If winning 10/11 out of 12 rounds is your idea of getting your ass handed to you, you're obviously a bit slow.

Danny on the other hand fought on the backfoot for the entire fight, nothing wrong with that of course, but this is a case of seeing what you want to see. Complete delusion.

I agree with this assessment. Danny shows great counter defensive plays and sets them up well. Thurman is among the best and most explosive combo offensive fighters at 147, and the fact that he exploits this illustration or justification during interviews makes him a people's champ. Garcia's narrative is "whatever I gotta do to win" on the back foot, it had seemed against Guerrero who's rugid but imo no seasoned Welter. This is why I always bring up Collazo as a good matchup for Danny at 147 for marketability at the Barclays and a Southpaw whom if dropped by DSG, would prove even better things than having fought Guerrero. Collazo's hook imo is stronger than any of Guerrero's hooks.

The only thing imo, that's going to make HUGE difference is how Garcia will handle Thurman's power from both hands. That's what's going to predict if Garcia wins or not. You can't make any mistakes in Danny's defense. Garcia won't win on points if it goes the distance.

[John Locke]

I agree with this assessment. Danny shows great counter defensive plays and sets them up well. Thurman is among the best and most explosive combo offensive fighters at 147, and the fact that he exploits this illustration or justification during interviews makes him a people's champ. Garcia's narrative is "whatever I gotta do to win" on the back foot, it had seemed against Guerrero who's rugid but imo no seasoned Welter. This is why I always bring up Collazo as a good matchup for Danny at 147 for marketability at the Barclays and a Southpaw whom if dropped by DSG, would prove even better things than having fought Guerrero. Collazo's hook imo is stronger than any of Guerrero's hooks.

The only thing imo, that's going to make HUGE difference is how Garcia will handle Thurman's power from both hands. That's what's going to predict if Garcia wins or not. You can't make any mistakes in Danny's defense. Garcia won't win on points if it goes the distance.

The key for me in this fight is who the aggressor is, with both guys being natural counter punchers, the aggressor will be at a disadvantage. Thurman can be wild and sloppy when he's aggressive, he needs to use his legs and let Danny lead. When he wants to throw first, make sure it's from an angle so Danny can't counter.

Thurman can't let Danny throw when his feet are planted, as soon as he sees Danny sitting down, gtfo of there and reset.

[frantic fighter]

The key for me in this fight is who the aggressor is, with both guys being natural counter punchers, the aggressor will be at a disadvantage. Thurman can be wild and sloppy when he's aggressive, he needs to use his legs and let Danny lead. When he wants to throw first, make sure it's from an angle so Danny can't counter.

Thurman can't let Danny throw when his feet are planted, as soon as he sees Danny sitting down, gtfo of there and reset.

So fight like Ba- itch against a markedly smaller fighter with less power. Even though that's deplorable of you to say as a fan. I think Danny can time Thurman it only took him a round and a half to adjust to Khan and Thurman doesn't hit as hard as Matthysse. I think Thurman's best bet is to try to rough him in the inside.

[Lester Tutor]

The key for me in this fight is who the aggressor is, with both guys being natural counter punchers, the aggressor will be at a disadvantage. Thurman can be wild and sloppy when he's aggressive, he needs to use his legs and let Danny lead. When he wants to throw first, make sure it's from an angle so Danny can't counter.

Thurman can't let Danny throw when his feet are planted, as soon as he sees Danny sitting down, gtfo of there and reset.

I wouldn't call Thurman sloppy. It's the same as when PAC initially started against guys like Morales, Barrera, or Marquez. Those guys in some instances were well composed with counters that it made PAC look "sloppy" too. I give Thurman credit because his style is risky and only does it to please the crowd, granted it puts him at risk at getting caught...but that's all part of the game.

For me, Thurman is like a younger Marquez. Thurman is the only current fighter that can plant his position with both left and right combos in awkward bent torso the way Marquez would stagger guys with the same type of counter offensive explosiveness. Perhaps that's why I like Thurman. He's like the opposite of Marquez, instead of counter defensive explosiveness he does it offensively. I only seeing Thurman improving in this if he continues to win.

[John Locke]

So fight like Ba- itch against a markedly smaller fighter with less power. Even though that's deplorable of you to say as a fan. I think Danny can time Thurman it only took him a round and a half to adjust to Khan and Thurman doesn't hit as hard as Matthysse. I think Thurman's best bet is to try to rough him in the inside.

lol what a ******ed and ignorant comment. The name of the game is to hit and not get hit, the sport is called boxing you mong. Was Garcia fighting like a 'Ba- itch' against Guerrero - who is smaller and lighter puncher than him?

Thurman can't fight on the inside, have you ever seen either of these guys fight? Doesn't seem like it.

[Lester Tutor]

So fight like Ba- itch against a markedly smaller fighter with less power. Even though that's deplorable of you to say as a fan. I think Danny can time Thurman it only took him a round and a half to adjust to Khan and Thurman doesn't hit as hard as Matthysse. I think Thurman's best bet is to try to rough him in the inside.

Doesn't hit as hard as Mathysse? Dude Diego Chavez would beat Matthysse. Thurman would destroy John Molina... Crawford is not heavier handed than Thurman.

[frantic fighter]

lol what a ******ed and ignorant comment. The name of the game is to hit and not get hit, the sport is called boxing you mong. Was Garcia fighting like a 'Ba- itch' against Guerrero - who is smaller and lighter puncher than him?

Thurman can't fight on the inside, have you ever seen either of these guys fight? Doesn't seem like it.

You have to be able to adjust, Peterson and Herrera had success roughing him up (also weight drained) on the inside. Guerrero and Garcia were about the same size with Guerrero having fought at the weight for four or five years. Garcia used some movement,but he didn't turn tail every time Guerrero set his feet and he sure as heck didn't do what run time normally does.