Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo: I'll Be Stronger at 160, I Want a Middleweight Title

[SteveM]

Agreed, I really like triple but I think he's over the hill, dude fights and trains that way your body will slow down past 35.

Defenitely not a "conservative fighter".

I looked his fights versus Geale and Ishida, dude was faster on his feet and fresher, already had those skills.

Loeffler wasted his prime.

K2 are sht promoter, and that's not the first time they kinda wast a guy's career.

Interesting. I think he was at his peak vs macklin, Rubio, Stevens, Geale - and he was so dominant against them that he could have been fighting better fighters. For example back then Abraham was still credible at SMW so he could have picked up a SMW title for big money (in Germany) and legacy.

I believe we all react differently to stress - mental or physical. You see the stress in the face. Golovkin looks to have aged facially faster than would be normal for 2-3 years. But his training regime is hellacious. Very stressful. You can see Trump has already aged like 5 years in a year what with the campaign and presidency.

Thurman looks to have aged quicker than he ought to have, Garcia still looks fresh facially. It's not a defining factor but maybe something to clue into. Klitschko still looks very young for 40 yrs old.

Which other fighters would you say have had their primes mis-managed by K2 ?

[Shadoww702]

Don't know why fans keep investing their time with these one-fight-a-year fighters. These Charlo brothers are like guests in the sport. They come and disappear without any trace. This guy act as if he's done it all in the 154 division.

??? Like Colonel Sanders??? Who almost got cashed out by a nobody???

Charlo 2016

Trout
Williams

Sht that's CRAZY when these guys are like the 8,9th best fighters in the division?

Not everyone can be as STACKED as MW...Holy sht they got a 4' 8" guy ranked in the top #10???

[SteveM]

Why not? Mayweather fought Dela Hoya in his first 154 bout, Cotto in his second (after going back to welterweight for a few fights), and Canelo in his third (after having gone back down to welterweight for Guerrero).

He also fought Castillo in his first bout at 135. So why, if Golovkin is as good as you coocksuckers say, could he not move up to fight Andre Ward?

Even Brook fought GGG in his first middlweight bout, and that was after moving up two divisions.

GGG won't even fight a guy one division down like Erislandy Lara, he'd rather continue to crush cans at middleweight.

I've never said GGG is as good as or even close to good as Mayweather. I know whose fights I enjoy more though these last few years.

If you can jump up and fight the best then great - do it. But most boxers can't move up AND fight the champion in their first fight (unless its a paper champ) and shouldn't be forced to either.

Brooks jump was for 75% for money. But nobody can say he doesn't have balls.

Lara has had all the time he needs to come up to MW, but he hasn't and probably won't. he seems content to fight no name fighters like Foremen and Zaveck for relative peanuts down in Miami since he lost to Canelo. Once in a while he'll fight a semi-meaningful fight like Martirosyran. He calls out GGG when he wants a bit of attention. Jermall just showed him how its done. Relinquish and move up as there is more money at MW.

[SensFullViolenc]

From what Ive seen of Charlo, he welcomes challenges.

I would have loved to see him longer at Jr. MW, just b/c there are sooooo many good young fighters in that division, you could make lots of good matchups. Him v JRock could have just been the beginning.

But he looked ENORMOUS in the ring. Understand that he cant make 154 anymore.

I hope he gets good matchups at 160. Depending on how his chin is (has it ever been tested), b/c of his boxing ability, he may be the hardest matchup for GGG at 160. To beat GGG, IMO you have to be rangy and you have to box very carefully. Maybe Charlo could do that.

[AKAcronym]

From what Ive seen of Charlo, he welcomes challenges.

I would have loved to see him longer at Jr. MW, just b/c there are sooooo many good young fighters in that division, you could make lots of good matchups. Him v JRock could have just been the beginning.

But he looked ENORMOUS in the ring. Understand that he cant make 154 anymore.

I hope he gets good matchups at 160. Depending on how his chin is (has it ever been tested), b/c of his boxing ability, he may be the hardest matchup for GGG at 160. To beat GGG, IMO you have to be rangy and you have to box very carefully. Maybe Charlo could do that.

You also have to be able to take what will probably be the hardest body shots you'll ever receive.

[boxingitis]

Lies! Mayweather, after beating Pac, had 3 of the four titles at welterweight, but the division still looked stacked.

Zab Judah at one point was the undesputed champ at welterweight, but the division still looked stacked.

In the Mike Tyson, Evander, Lennox error, there was an undesputed champ at heavyweight, but the division was still stacked.

You're embarassing yourself you and your GGG defense force. 160 is weak as ****! Everybody knows this.

You claim the guys at 154 aren't fighting each other and yet I gave you last year's fights and this year's schedule, where these guys are guarenteed to fight each other. Andrade is mandatory to Jermell and he bout to be mandatory to Lara too. Jarret Hurd and Tony Harrison bout to fight for the vacant IBF title, before it was scheduled as an eliminator to become mandatory to Charlo, but unfortunately he moved up.

Charlo's last two fights are Trout and J-rock, and Jermell has a mandatory to Hartley and then Andrade afterwards. The fights are being made and it's eating you alive that the division is catching fire and Golovkin ducking one of the most prominent figures in it (Lara).

I bet you're one of the guys building roadblocks for a Charlo vs GGG fight soon.

Hahahahaha ur funny. Tell me when people care about those fights. Again let me know when they Unify, not when they are undesputed. GGG already beat most of the guys in the division something mayweathe didnt do . Mayweaher didnt beat Brook, Thurman, Porter, Spence, Garcia. GGG only has Jacobs to finish.

[boxingitis]

Lies! Mayweather, after beating Pac, had 3 of the four titles at welterweight, but the division still looked stacked.

Zab Judah at one point was the undesputed champ at welterweight, but the division still looked stacked.

In the Mike Tyson, Evander, Lennox error, there was an undesputed champ at heavyweight, but the division was still stacked.

You're embarassing yourself you and your GGG defense force. 160 is weak as ****! Everybody knows this.

You claim the guys at 154 aren't fighting each other and yet I gave you last year's fights and this year's schedule, where these guys are guarenteed to fight each other. Andrade is mandatory to Jermell and he bout to be mandatory to Lara too. Jarret Hurd and Tony Harrison bout to fight for the vacant IBF title, before it was scheduled as an eliminator to become mandatory to Charlo, but unfortunately he moved up.

Charlo's last two fights are Trout and J-rock, and Jermell has a mandatory to Hartley and then Andrade afterwards. The fights are being made and it's eating you alive that the division is catching fire and Golovkin ducking one of the most prominent figures in it (Lara).

I bet you're one of the guys building roadblocks for a Charlo vs GGG fight soon.

Make Charlo vs GGG next in Texas. No problem.

[ShoulderRoll]

If Andrade moves up too then they will both add some good depth to 160.

[b00g13man]

Just re-watch more fights in that division. Surely the quality will grow on you like DJ

The quality you're clearly acting like you don't see. You can pretend all you want. Once a fight gets made w/ ggg and charlo you'll make your 5 threads of us thinking twice about charlo's chances or some sort.

[HeroBando]

Agreed, I really like triple but I think he's over the hill, dude fights and trains that way your body will slow down past 35.

Defenitely not a "conservative fighter".

I looked his fights versus Geale and Ishida, dude was faster on his feet and fresher, already had those skills.

Loeffler wasted his prime.

K2 are sht promoter, and that's not the first time they kinda wast a guy's career.

Nonsense, nobody has done a better promotional job lately than Loeffler. They only signed him when he was 30, fighting in bingo halls and making 5 figures. The big guys didn't think he was marketable.

Hearn explained the problem:. Anyone with some name wants a huge purse to get in the ring with him. The money just wasn't there unless the opponent was a strong A side but then they can make money with much less risk. But that's all changing through Loeffler's great work, where else could Brook, Jacobs get those fat purses