Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr: If No Drugs or Alcohol - I Might Have Reached 100-0!

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Lol you say black people like a lot know who the *** he is. If you didn't follow boxing, we wouldn't know the difference between him and the elote man.

well we on a boxing forum so obviously im speaking about the blacks that watch boxing.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

He doesn't even cross my mind when talking about the best to lace 'em up. Good fighter but was definitely overated.

[Liondw]

Chavez Sr a great fighter but totally outboxed by Pernell Whitaker. By the time he fought De La Hoya he as past his prime and Oscar a bit too big and powerful for him. But what a fighter he was though.

[rrayvez]

If it wasn't for Jose sulaiman, Richard Steele and Don King, he also may have had multiple losses on his record alot sooner than he did.

[sterilizer]

Respect! You gotta live your life too.

Serious Question, why do black people hate Chavez sr so much? it always a wonderment of mines.

Serious answer: because he put Roger Mayweather to shame TWICE, by KO, when, before that, Mayweather had defeated every single Mexican boxer he had faced, and it was a lengthy list at it (I am guessing it was a bunch of bums of course).

I think prime Chavez Sr., I mean the one that destroyed Roger Mayweather in their first fight, being way shorter than Roger, having extremely shorter arms than him, and showing no muscle in his upper body compared to Roger, who, conversely, looked like two divisions heavier than Chavez in his upper body and way more muscular, THAT Chavez Sr. under the same circumstances would have KO'd Floyd Mayweather Jr. IMO, but it is only a biased opinion from a person who totally dislikes super-defensive tricky fighters like Floyd. At least Roger was willing to exchange a little with Chavez Sr. and boy did he pay the price of daring do that or what? He even got knocked down with a superman-punch that the black African-American referee didn't count as a knock down, but it was clearly a KD coming from a punch even if they crashed into each other before Roger hit the canvas. And there was another legal KD that that biased referee ruled as a "slip" as well. I think it was 4 or 5 knock downs in all, before the referee accurately stopped that massacre, two of them biasedly ruled as "slips".

Anyways, that's why I think African Americans hate him most, not to mention other black fighters he defeated as well, which they of course claim Chavez defeated by robbery, but they don't take into account that in all those controversial fights he was the one who inflicted way more damage to the opponent, he connected less but more MEANINGFUL punches as opposed to tons of feather-fisted semi-punches that did absolutely no damage to Chavez Sr.

And of course he was always the aggressor, the one making the fight, and that is an important point as well when there is a close decision to rule.

[TOBYLEE1]

Randall was partying harder than Chavez.

Randall had rectified himself during that period, but he was out before the Chavez shot because of drugs.

Also I thought that he lost to Whitaker, so no way if Chavez would had stood sober would had reached 100. I was hoping he did but you never know in boxing

[TOBYLEE1]

He doesn't even cross my mind when talking about the best to lace 'em up. Good fighter but was definitely overated.

True that he fought a lot of cab drivers but he fought and beat a lot of very good fighters. He is one of the best that Mexico ever produced

[TOBYLEE1]

At the time, prime Chavez (before Whitaker) was a beast. Commentators at the time sumarised a fight with him as 'pressure, pressure, pressure'. I remember the Taylor fight. Taylor was the hot shot of the day, and many expected him to beat Chavez. For sure, Taylor out-boxed him by a huge margin for most of the fight, and but for that late close at the end of the 12th, Chavez would have lost that one. But that fight showed why he was such a beast - you could hit him with everything (which Taylor did) and he just didn't stop coming - he basically wore Taylor out with his chin before starting to land the shots to wear him down to face and body too.

By the time he got to Whitaker (a fight he clearly lost imo), he was early 30s and visibly declining (at the time was felt to be just age and mileage, but now we know the drugs/alcohol played a part).

A prime Chavez vs Whitaker or De La Hoya would have been superb fights, but he was 11 years older than De La Hoya, and by then he was pretty much at a good gatekeeper level. Doesn't take away from where he was in his prime years though, which was a force (vs cab drivers or elite).

Right up to the Whitaker fight Chavez was steam rolling all his opponents. Whitaker was just better which by the way was another drug addict

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

True that he fought a lot of cab drivers but he fought and beat a lot of very good fighters. He is one of the best that Mexico ever produced

Definitely and regarding his drug habits we're all human and have our vices so he shouldn't hold it against himself.

[Kigali]

Respect! You gotta live your life too.

Serious Question, why do black people hate Chavez sr so much? it always a wonderment of mines.

Why do you care so much about Black people's likes and dislikes.???

Stop being so insecure lil Chola.