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  • Thraxox
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    #21
    Originally posted by g27region
    Loma also would have never lost to Fillipino and Thailand bartenders and cab drivers, unlike Pacquiao
    Hypothetically, Lomachenko could never beat grown ass men at 16 years old weighing under a hundred pounds.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      I get it. What I'm saying is that Lomachenko's physical prime is already in the highway of Father Time. Lomachenko perhaps could accomplish half of what Pacquiao and Mayweather could do in that limited span of time.
      He choosed to achieve greatness in amateurs instead of chasing greatness of Mayweather or Pac in pro boxing, and I can't blame him for that because his amateur resume is almost impossible to beat. Sure thing, I'd want to see him turning into a pro earlier , right after his first Olympic games

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        #23
        Pacquiao is the master of angle punching
        It's also his downfall though
        Lomax is a lil more reserved and measured

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          #24
          Originally posted by Thraxox
          Hypothetically, Lomachenko could never beat grown ass men at 16 years old weighing under a hundred pounds.
          If we're going to go into details, Salido fight wasn't that fair either, starting with the fact that Salido couldn't make the weight

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            #25
            Pacquiao had phenomenal footwork

            Lomachenko might have the best footwork I've ever seen

            Pacquiao's like an 8/10 on footwork , whereas Loma's a 10.

            Now as fighters, clearly Lomachenko is the technically superior fighter. Loma is an absolute master technician. But Pacquiao's incredible work rate, raw God given talent, blinding hand speed and mesmerizing combinations EASILY made up for what he lacked from a technical standpoint.

            They're both once in a generation type fighters. Lomachenko has the skill set and potential to be a legendary fighter. Pacquiao already IS a legendary fighter.

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              Loma probably. Loma is very upright arm punching. Pacquiao is an athletic beast and he likes to put everything into each punch while doing those crazy moves. they have their perks, but Loma can really stay on top of a guy while Pacquiao is always jumping back and forth.

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                #27
                Originally posted by g27region
                If we're going to go into details, Salido fight wasn't that fair either, starting with the fact that Salido couldn't make the weight
                Now if we are going to details who had more of a disadvantage.

                1 is a decorated amateur probably the GOAT in amateur boxing who is a gull grown adult, who had known beyond the basics of boxing, some speculated better than top featherweight fighters in his debut because of his background, who at the time was under the promotional banner of one of the biggest prize fighter cuddlers/hyper in the history of boxing (Top Rank) taking on a C+/B-level fighter, who outweighed him only by 10 pounds.

                Then the other is a 16 years old kid who is still going through puberty, who weighed under a hundred pound that fought literally because of his own plight and starvation that was paid at the time, two dollars a fight, taking on a full grown man who God knows how much he outweighed him, not taking into the account of Pacs training, dehydration, hunger.

                IF Lomachenko even experienced a fraction of what Pac experienced in his child hood I'd even doubt he could make it in the olympics.

                So who is more disadvantaged?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Thraxox
                  Now if we are going to details who had more of a disadvantage.

                  1 is a decorated amateur probably the GOAT in amateur boxing who is a gull grown adult, who had known beyond the basics of boxing, some speculated better than top featherweight fighters in his debut because of his background, who at the time was under the promotional banner of one of the biggest prize fighter cuddlers/hyper in the history of boxing (Top Rank) taking on a C+/B-level fighter, who outweighed him only by 10 pounds.

                  Then the other is a 16 years old kid who is still going through puberty, who weighed under a hundred pound that fought literally because of his own plight and starvation that was paid at the time, two dollars a fight, taking on a full grown man who God knows how much he outweighed him, not taking into the account of Pacs training, dehydration, hunger.

                  IF Lomachenko even experienced a fraction of what Pac experienced in his child hood I'd even doubt he could make it in the olympics.

                  So who is more disadvantaged?
                  If you want to talk about who was more disadvantaged, let's compare the manner how they lost these fights too.

                  Lomachenko had a close competitive fight against pro vet in his only second pro bout, and arguably even won that fight according to some people, despite giving Salido the huge weight advantage and the green light to bend the rules. And he figured him out in the later rounds. Pacquiao got knocked out with a body shot by some Thai bartender in a 3rd round. Pacquiao was 20 y.o at that period of time, not 16, plus he had 27 pro fights behind his back. (I'm talking about his second loss here)

                  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this to disrespect Pacquiao, he's a legend and one of the reasons I've started watching boxing, and I'm not trying to compare Loma and Pac here, they're perfect in different aspects of the game.

                  I'm just saying this to show you that "Pac would have never lost to Salido" can't be used as an argument here, that's really it
                  Last edited by g27region; 02-13-2017, 08:04 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by g27region
                    If you want to talk about who was more disadvantaged, let's compare the manner how they lost these fights too.

                    Lomachenko had a close competitive fight against pro vet in his only second pro bout, and arguably even won that fight according to some people, despite giving Salido the huge weight advantage and the green light to bend the rules. And he figured him out in the later rounds. Pacquiao got knocked out with a body shot by some Thai bartender in a 3rd round. Pacquiao was 20 y.o at that period of time, not 16, plus he had 27 pro fights behind his back. (I'm talking about his second loss here)

                    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this to disrespect Pacquiao, he's a legend and one of the reasons I've started watching boxing, and I'm not trying to compare Loma and Pac here, they're perfect in different aspects of the game.

                    I'm just saying this to show you that "Pac would have never lost to Salido" can't be used as an argument here, that's really it
                    Anf I'm saying Pac losing to "Filipino and Thailand Bartenders" Doesn't work either when we all know Lomachenko would die if he fought full grown men as a 16 year old starving homeless teenager who weighed under a hundred pounds.

                    Do you even know what was the situation in the Singasurat fight? Pacquiao vacated the belt because he failed to make the 112, and was given 2 hours to make weight and he still didn'tand was begged by his team to not continue on with the fight when he couldn't ,make weight anymore. Pacquiao got physically drained in the fight and looked like Oscar Dela Hoya 2.0 on fight night against Singasurat.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      Anf I'm saying Pac losing to "Filipino and Thailand Bartenders" Doesn't work either when we all know Lomachenko would die if he fought full grown men as a 16 year old starving homeless teenager who weighed under a hundred pounds.
                      We'd never know

                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      Do you even know what was the situation in the Singasurat fight? Pacquiao vacated the belt because he failed to make the 112, and was given 2 hours to make weight and he still didn'tand was begged by his team to not continue on with the fight when he couldn't ,make weight anymore. Pacquiao got physically drained in the fight and looked like Oscar Dela Hoya 2.0 on fight night against Singasurat.
                      If we're going to go into details, Salido fight wasn't that fair either, starting with the fact that Salido couldn't make the weight

                      I start repeating myself

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