Is going with al haymon career suicide?

[-Kev-]

Career suicide? How many Haymon-advised fighters are current major title holders?

Leo Santa Cruz
Danny Garcia
Deontay Wilder
Keith Thurman
James DeGale
Lee Selby
Erislandy Lara
Gervonta Davis
Adrien Broner
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Danny Jacobs
Rances Barthelemey
Abner Mares
Gary Russell Jr
Robert Easter Jr

This is just a list of Haymon fighters I know are champs right now. You also have to take into account fighters who have fought for a title (got the opportunity), fighters who just had a title recently (Frampton, Fortuna, Jonathan Guzman) and fighters who are scheduled to fight for a major title.

If you are a good or even decent fighter, you should be holding a title if you are advised by Haymon. Not career suicide, it's the opposite.

[Motorcity Cobra]

If you had the chance to pick up the rights to a single fighter, would you rather have the contract for Gennady Golovkin or would you rather have the contract for Deontay Wilder?

Golovkin's been pushed like heck on HBO, but you can't tell me that you wouldn't take having the possible undisputed heavyweight champion under contract.

A heavyweight champ no doubt

[Mitchell Kane]

If you had the chance to pick up the rights to a single fighter, would you rather have the contract for Gennady Golovkin or would you rather have the contract for Deontay Wilder?

Golovkin's been pushed like heck on HBO, but you can't tell me that you wouldn't take having the possible undisputed heavyweight champion under contract.

I think I would take Golovkin.

Reason being is he probably has a bigger money in front of him (against Canelo) than Wilder does (against Joshua)...and I think Golovkin would be seen as having a better chance of beating Canelo than Wilder would against Joshua.

Golovkin has some work to do to get to a Canelo fight, and still has some negotiations his camp would have....but he's favored to beat Jacobs and a strong showing could significantly enhance his negotiating strength.

[original zero]

mitchell, you have some good points, but i think jacobs is a live dog and GGG not having a rematch clause would worry me. if he loses that fight, he's totally screwed. if wilder loses to joshua, he'll have the political clout to get a rematch, other title shots, etc.

[satiev1]

Career suicide? How many Haymon-advised fighters are current major title holders?

Leo Santa Cruz
Danny Garcia
Deontay Wilder
Keith Thurman
James DeGale
Lee Selby
Erislandy Lara
Gervonta Davis
Adrien Broner
Jermell Charlo
Jermall Charlo
Danny Jacobs
Rances Barthelemey
Abner Mares
Gary Russell Jr
Robert Easter Jr

This is just a list of Haymon fighters I know are champs right now. You also have to take into account fighters who have fought for a title (got the opportunity), fighters who just had a title recently (Frampton, Fortuna, Jonathan Guzman) and fighters who are scheduled to fight for a major title.

If you are a good or even decent fighter, you should be holding a title if you are advised by Haymon. Not career suicide, it's the opposite.

And almost none of those fighters get public exposure. They're promoted very poorly because haymon only works with ****ty promoters.

[-Kev-]

And almost none of those fighters get public exposure. They're promoted very poorly because haymon only works with ****ty promoters.

How much do you hear these fighters earn though? 6-7 digits for all of them. So the question still goes back to, how is this career suicide? Belt+money? Lol, they're prizefighters. To them that's success.

[downklown]

Luis Collazo signed with Haymon in 2014. Since then he's had 5 fights.
4 of those 5 fights were headline fights against Victor Ortiz,Amir Khan,Keith Thurman & Sammy Vasquez.


Also,every single big fight scheduled for the first 6 months of this year features a Haymon fighter except for the Joshua vs Klitschko fight

Jack vs Degale
Frampton vs Santa Cruz
Broner vs Granados
GGG vs Jacobs
Brook vs Spence
Canelo vs Chavez jr
Thurman vs Garcia

[Mitchell Kane]

mitchell, you have some good points, but i think jacobs is a live dog and GGG not having a rematch clause would worry me. if he loses that fight, he's totally screwed. if wilder loses to joshua, he'll have the political clout to get a rematch, other title shots, etc.

Jacobs is a live dog for sure, but with risk comes potential reward.

If Golovkin wins, he solidifies his place atop the middleweight division, increases the public demand for Canelo to fight him and could also increases his asking price for that fight.

Plus, I don't know that HBO will just drop him if he loses...depending on what happened in the ring, there could still be fights available...like perhaps a Gilberto Ramirez fight or something along those lines.

[original zero]

i'm not saying HBO would drop him. i'm saying that i would choose wilder over GGG because if wilder loses, he has chances to get back in the mix. if GGG loses, he has no rematch clause, and haymon ends up with a monopoly of yet another division. GGG with an unavenged loss moving up to super middle wouldn't be as lucrative as a one loss wilder heading into a joshusa rematch, a klitschko fight, etc.