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  • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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    #21
    Originally posted by satiev1
    It was in no particular order.
    Oh no, dont you go switching your tune now.
    Note this is my order

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    • KingHippo
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      #22
      1. Gonzalez
      2. Ward
      3. Terrence Crawford
      4. Golovkin
      5. Pacquiao
      6. Canelo Alvarez
      7. Lomachenko
      8. Sergey Kovalev
      9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
      10. Danny Garcia

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      • lizard_man
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        #23
        I stopped reading after 1.Golovkin

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        • boliodogs
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          #24
          You have a very different way of doing pound for pound best. My understanding of it is that it is how good for his weight you think a boxer is for his weight class based on what you have seen from him in his last few fights. He doesn't have to have beaten all these good fighters, that's resume. You only have to think he is good. Dominating his current weight class is your standard. If he is in a strong weight class that would be hard to do. If he was in a weak weight class it would be much easier to do. If a weight class is strong enough you could have 3 or 4 pound for pound best fighters in it. For instance neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao completely dominated welterweight until they fought and Mayweather won. Before that they were the top two on most pound for pound lists. Some had Pacquiao first and others had Mayweather first. I have both Spence and Loma high on my PFP list and neither of them have dominated or cleaned out their weight class. I just think they are that good. Anyway it's your list to do with as you please. In general I like your list and think you have good taste in boxers.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #25
            Originally posted by TMTForever99
            my top 10 p4p list:

            1. Andre Ward - Unified 175 champion
            2. Guillermo Rigondeux - WBA super batnaweight champion
            3. Adonis Stevenson - Lineal WBC 175 champion on 12 ko streak
            4. Terence Crawford - Unified champion at 140lbs
            5. Keith Thurman - WBA champion at 147
            6. Canelo Alvarez - WBO chanpion at 154
            7. Errol Spence JR.- 12 fight ko strek hardest hitter at 147
            8. Vasyl lomanchenko - WBA champion at 130
            9. Daniel Jacobs - WBA champion at 160 12 fight ko streak
            10. Mikey Garcia- WBC 135 champion
            who's alt is this...lol

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            • Larry the boss
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              #26
              Originally posted by TMTForever99
              adrien has to work himself back up. losing to porter and thurman does not scream p4p.
              Broner fought Thurman???lol

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              • bluebeam
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                #27
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                You have a very different way of doing pound for pound best. My understanding of it is that it is how good for his weight you think a boxer is for his weight class based on what you have seen from him in his last few fights. He doesn't have to have beaten all these good fighters, that's resume. You only have to think he is good. Dominating his current weight class is your standard. If he is in a strong weight class that would be hard to do. If he was in a weak weight class it would be much easier to do. If a weight class is strong enough you could have 3 or 4 pound for pound best fighters in it. For instance neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao completely dominated welterweight until they fought and Mayweather won. Before that they were the top two on most pound for pound lists. Some had Pacquiao first and others had Mayweather first. I have both Spence and Loma high on my PFP list and neither of them have dominated or cleaned out their weight class. I just think they are that good. Anyway it's your list to do with as you please. In general I like your list and think you have good taste in boxers.
                Bro you can't be p4p and you have never won a world title. You can't be p4p and your biggest win is against leonard bundu.

                Talent means nothing if it isn't shown against the best. spence is a beast, but he could be andre berto for all we know.

                p4p is about skill,dominance, and resume.

                For example

                Rigo-skill
                Lomachenko - skill
                ward-resume
                Canelo - resume
                Golovkin- dominance
                Crawford - dominance

                I agree with your weight class assessment, but p4p isn't for unproven prospects. We gotta see him put those skills on display against some credible fighters before we give him the props.

                Spence is future p4p if all goes right, no way is he p4p today

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                • techliam
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                  #28
                  There is literally no case for Spence to be anywhere near the top 10

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                  • j0zef
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                    #29
                    1. Chocolatito
                    2. Ward
                    3. Kovalev
                    4. Crawford
                    5. Golovkin
                    6. Pac
                    7. Loma
                    8. Usyk
                    9. Mikey
                    10. Garcia / LSC / Frampton / Inoue

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by satiev1
                      All these fighters below are very dominant in their own weight class. The criteria I use is skill, dominance among your peers, and resume. Note this is my order, but you can put these fighters in any order you see fit as long as they are in the top 9. I can't put any welterweights on the list because no one has established clear dominance and I can't put any hw's on the list either since no one has cleaned out the division. Number 10 is a pick em. You can make a case for the below fighters.

                      1. Golovkin
                      2. Andre Ward
                      3. Sergey Kovalev
                      4. Terrence Crawford
                      5. Lomachenko
                      6. Canelo Alvarez
                      7. Roman Gonzalez
                      8. Rigondeaux
                      9. Mikey Garcia
                      10. Errol Spence jr, Beterbiev, Stevenson, Anthony Joshua,or Fury, Inoue or Andrade.
                      Originally posted by TMTForever99
                      my top 10 p4p list:

                      1. Andre Ward - Unified 175 champion
                      2. Guillermo Rigondeux - WBA super batnaweight champion
                      3. Adonis Stevenson - Lineal WBC 175 champion on 12 ko streak
                      4. Terence Crawford - Unified champion at 140lbs
                      5. Keith Thurman - WBA champion at 147
                      6. Canelo Alvarez - WBO chanpion at 154
                      7. Errol Spence JR.- 12 fight ko strek hardest hitter at 147
                      8. Vasyl lomanchenko - WBA champion at 130
                      9. Daniel Jacobs - WBA champion at 160 12 fight ko streak
                      10. Mikey Garcia- WBC 135 champion

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