Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
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LOL!!!!
There is no comparison of resumes between Hopkins at
and Golovkin at 160. When the best name on your resume is Murray, you are in your mid 30s, and have held a belt for 6 years, you don't trump anyone.
And yes, Lil g's opposition IS his fault.
He has had opportunities to prove himself since he and his promoters started that "anyone in 3 weight classes nonsense".
They have only themselves to blame if 160 is the only weight he has competed at.
A golden opportunity came is way last year to put his money where his mouth is. All he had to do was agree to fight Canelo at 155...or even TRY TO NEGOTIATE a catchweight of 157 or 158. He did none of that.
Which lets me know that "3 weight classes" thing was bullshyt.
Now, he is offered a career payday by Canelo. He takes it and wins and he is an instant PPV star who can write his own ticket. Mayweather and Pac took shorter money (in comparison) when each fought DLH even though both were bonafide stars in their own right who could have rightly haggled for more.
Unlike Lil g, they knew what time it was. And both of their careers took off after. Makes you wonder what Lil g's problem is...
And BTW, Loma AND Rigo have better names on their resumes even with much fewer fights. They certainly deserve to be on anyone's P4P list. Spence gets on the list because of how he beat his competition in comparison to how others on the list (or right outside the top 10) beat THAT SAME competition.
This is as good a place as any to post my current P4P list:
1) Ward
1B) Kovalev
3) Gonzalez
4) Crawford
5) M. Garcia
6) Spence
7) Rigondeaux
8) Pacquiao
9) Lomachenko
10) Alvarez
Originally posted by latinlingo View PostDe La Hoya's own Ring Magazine pound for pound list has GGG at #4, higher than their cash cow Canelo. Forget that Dan Rafael, Steve Farhood, Eric Raskin, Steve Kim, Kevin Iole, Doug Fisher, Tim Graham, Bart Barry, Graham Houston, the list of respectable boxing writers goes on and on, ALL have GGG somewhere in their P4P list. Forget the tens of boxing sites who hold the same, Teddy Atlas P4P list holds as much credibility as a WBA Regular Belt.
When Bernard Hopkins ruled the middleweight division, it was loaded with a less than stellar stable of fighters. His record defenses were still undeniable achievements. Skin it how you want, this is the same Teddy Atlas that downplayed Bernard's hall of fame career and oldest champion ever achievement. Bernard's opposition wasn't his fault and neither is GGG's.
There is nobody who dominates and controls the ring better than GGG. At 23 straight KO's and almost a 92% KO percentage, greatest in Middleweight history by the way, is why he is on every respectable boxing writers and boxing website's P4P list. I think he does need more credible challengers as so do a few others on that list, I speak as a fan of the sport.
You don't deny that Vasily Lomachenko is a P4P with only 7 fights do you? You can make the argument that at 7 fights, he hasn't done enough to warrant such ranking but he does, he's the most skilled fighter today. Oh and Rigo Rigondeaux only having 17 fights, surely there's no way he could make your P4P list either right? Of course he does, besides Loma, nobody denies Rigo that spot either. The exact same argument can be made about Errol Spence. Teddy is merely being the controversial pinhead he is today. You take his P4P list with a grain of salt or wipe your as with it because it's garbage.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostHow little i understand? You sound like a guy that's never been in a fight in his life.
No fighter lets someone hit them you ******ed ****. Even featherfist punchers hurt.
Gololvkin always does the nodding head when he gets caught clean. You haven't seen many of his fights if you think that was some kind of sign.
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