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  • #31
    Oh please people acting like leaving ggg off the p4p is some sort of boxing sin is ridiculous. Of course u can find holes in his explanation. He is in his 30s and has still yet to fight an A level fighter. In a way it almost goes to show the weird fascination these boxing writers have for ggg. They constantly make excuses for him as well.

    I personally would have ggg in my p4p but not in top 5 and I don't think it's crazy if people don't the fact he's getting so much **** for it goes to show the elitist atmosphere of boxing writers at the moment. This we know all and anyone who dares to think outside of the elitist boxing bubble knows nothing. I mean seriously give me a ****ing break boxing writers

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    • #32
      Really? you going to write an article making a case for his inclusion. Fanboyism all over here, making it look like its a sin. P4P is subjective and even though i personally would not have Spence anywhere near the top 10 and would probably place GGG in around 8-10, there is no need for those fanatic articles questioning why he isn't or anyone's list.

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      • #33
        Atlas had a bug up his arse over GGG for a long time, so it's no real surprise. It's not as if he's hid it.

        If it was one of the other ESPN guys who left GGG of this list (or had Spence on it) then it would raise eyebrows. But not with Atlas, he's just being Atlas, he has always made a point of being different.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post






          Atlas' list

          1. Vasyl Lomachenko
          2. Terence Crawford
          3. Andre Ward
          4. Keith Thurman
          5. Sergey Kovalev
          6. Roman Gonzalez
          7. Guillermo Rigondeaux
          8. Canelo Alvarez
          9. Manny Pacquiao
          10. Errol Spence Jr.

          Lomachenko a bit too high, same with Crawford. Ward and Thurman too high, Kovalev too low. Gonzalez too low. Rigo about right, woulnd't complain if he was higher. Spence and Canelo aren't top 10 p4p fighters.

          Fury, and Golovkin are missing, and so is Bradley. Pacqiao is also too high.
          You're on crack. You want Bradley to be included who Pacquiao used him to mop the floor and you said Pacquiao is too high? Pacquiao should be number one. He bulldozed Vargas easily and no one will do. All the fighters mentioned by Atlas on his list are overrated except of course Pacquiao.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post






            Atlas' list

            1. Vasyl Lomachenko
            2. Terence Crawford
            3. Andre Ward
            4. Keith Thurman
            5. Sergey Kovalev
            6. Roman Gonzalez
            7. Guillermo Rigondeaux
            8. Canelo Alvarez
            9. Manny Pacquiao
            10. Errol Spence Jr.

            Lomachenko a bit too high, same with Crawford. Ward and Thurman too high, Kovalev too low. Gonzalez too low. Rigo about right, woulnd't complain if he was higher. Spence and Canelo aren't top 10 p4p fighters.

            Fury, and Golovkin are missing, and so is Bradley. Pacqiao is also too high.
            If pacquiao is too high at #9 and bradley is missing from the list, doesnt that mean that bradley would be ahead of pacquiao on your p4p? In what universe should bradley be ahead of pacquiao on anyones p4p?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
              Any list that has Spence on it but excludes GGG is not worth even taking seriously. Don't understand how you guys can put this kid on there and then at the same time leave GGG off "because of his resume". It's laughable and shows people's bias against the guy.
              I just used his list of fighters. Personally I would of had Danny Garcia instead of Spence for now.

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              • #37
                Atlas is a bitter *****. Rigo hasn't fought anyone of note in 5 years and has shown slippage and vulnerabilities his whole career. But he's ranked.

                I like Spence but come on the dude is barely a contender at this point.

                Thurman? Loma #1?

                Clear bias and no critical thinking went into this list and should totally be disregarded. Then again bring the snarky ******* Teddy Atlas is, he's probably just trolling for reactions because he's irrevelant.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                  No fighter lets someone hit them
                  Uh....

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
                    Chocolatito is at number 6. Roman Gonzalez, u must not know boxing.
                    Chocolatito just had a controversial win over Cuadras. What have you done for me lately scenario. I guess you could say the same for Ward's comeback victory. Chocolatito is low on my list as well even though I've seen him and know he has run rough shot over those lower weight guys. If he fights Inoue and wins he will atleast crack my top 3. I'd have no problem with people having him #1. Since he is a little guy I will not give him much benefit of the doubt in the meantime. The fact is little guys are less likely to die in the ring. The bigger fighters are more powerful and more dangerous. He should be on everyone's list though as well as GGG. To me as long as they make the list it is acceptable. Golovkin will move up a little with a win over fellow champion Danny Jacobs. Having Errol Spence on the list already before he gets Brook in the ring is kind of questionable to me IMO. Keith Thurman is barely on the verge of breaking into my list if he gets past Danny Garcia. He would have been on my list with the Porter win but I thought Porter outhustled him in that fight. Spence isn't on my p4p radar yet but he will get in with a victory over Brook.

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                    • #40
                      Here is Rogdog's P4P list

                      Top 10 Active Fighters:
                      1. Andre Ward
                      2. Vasyl Lomachenko
                      3. Terence Crawford
                      4. Roman Gonzalez
                      5. Sergey Kovalev
                      6. Manny Pacquiao
                      7. Canelo Alvarez
                      8. Guillermo Rigondeux
                      9. Mikey Garcia
                      10. Gennady Golovkin
                      On the cusp: Erislandy Lara, Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Adonis Stevenson

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