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The fanboys and haters don't want to discuss the fact that Ward signed a 3 fight deal with HBO and that deal culminated and was fulfilled with the Kovalev fight. Apparently Kathy Duva doesn't want to discuss that either. Duva wants to play the fools with the media game because she knows the haters don't really care about all the factors involved, they are just looking for reasons to hate.
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You're not paying attention. What is happening between US and Russia now is a second edition of a Cold War. US tried to hijack a country with heavy Russian presence - Ukraine. They financed the overthrowing of previous Ukrainian president (perfectly ********ically elected, mind you) with a goal to remove Russian Navy from Crimea and occupy these bases. It did not turn out like they envisioned. Russia quickly ceased Crimea. As a payback US started a campaign against Russia with sanctions, meldonium and all this crap. Weak retort IMO. Ward just used this situation to his advantage.Comment
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so much for all of that bull**** about having the terms already fleshed out for the rematch, lol.
After all that talk, Duva doesn't have a formal date, Duva doesn't have a formal venue, and Duva doesn't even have much knowledge of the broadcaster beyond waiting on HBO to formally offer a date.
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Contract.
That's the key word here.
If that contract has been well drawn up, and given the amount of experience Duva has it would be surprising if it wasn't, then Ward is in a box. He can say or do anything he wants but the terms of the contract will prevail. This may be another fight, it may be a predetermined amount of money, or it may be damages to be calculated in relationship to the take in the first fight.
Ward has had an unfortunate relationship with contracts. He sued Goosen repeatedly and lost every time. He thereby lost his best and probably most lucrative years. He was then incredibly lucky. He made statements about Goosen that gave Goosen no professional choice but to countersue him (Ward). That case would have been incredibly expensive to Ward but he was way lucky - Goosen died and you can't damage the professional relationship of a dead man. The remarkable thing about this series of missteps is that he has to have been advised, by his management and by a legal team. And yet he proceeded with hopeless cases. He just doesn't seem to get that the law may grind slow but there are outcomes and in clear cut cases of contract they are reasonably clear. IF that contract is well drawn and Ward can't fight anyone else before Kovalev he can try to renegotiate but K's team don't have to agree and then he will have to fight or he won't be performing in accordance with the contract and he will be sued. There are a variety of ways he can try to escape the consequences. I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with a career ending injury. That might get nasty with competing medical experts testifying as to whether he does indeed have such an injury. And some injuries can be very controversial - e.g. mental.
My su****ion is that if this fight doesn't move forward soon we are going to see a long drawn out legal battle. I can't see why Roc Nation should play along with Ward and pay K's team off if he's retired, so it will come out of Ward's capital. Just the legal costs will be substantial.
It's a mess. But, if the contract is well drawn, then people can shout and scream all they like but it is the terms of the contract that will prevail.Comment
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Everyone has already acknowledged that there's a rematch clause; the hang-up has consistently been the reality, which is becoming even more obvious as time goes on, that none of the actual terms have actually been negotiated yet, no matter how hard Duva tries to push that story.
The fight will be handled on Ward's terms, and Ward's history has made it clear that Duva's attempts at creating pressure in the boxing press will do literally nothing to change Ward's timeline.
Main Events isn't dictating things at this point; Roc Nation Sports is. Kathy better hope that Kovalev isn't freelancing with his body while they waitComment
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I'm a fan of both fighters and was highly anticipating the rematch but all I can do is SMH at this shit here. Ward should give him a rematch, but I can't feel bad for Duva. She's an idiot for going out in public and doing this. I'm sure this won't help anything whatsoever and as someone else stated, she reneged on a purse bid that she was all-in on, supposedly.Comment
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S.O.G. vs Kal-El, Who's the Undisputed Champion?
How come Kovalev nor Ward, wants to become Undisputed Champions while Stevenson still hold the lineal WBC belt. Kovalev came with a thousand excuses to blind fans & stepped back from a face to face Live on HBO. On the other hand, Ward says Stevenson must ask Al to come out and play, later on he says Stevenson had opportunities "Why now?", but lately he says fighting Cleverly or Badou Jack would be great. Again, in different preaching words Ward says, fighting for the Undisputed title is a step back-Ward.
I wonder how come boxing fans didn't react to that lie!
Ward was using his preachers skills in his last UK interview; Ward does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar; a fake preacher.
Ward doesn't want to loose, Stevenson is a real threat for him or Kovalev, but team Kovalev did their trash talk-ish so well, that sheeps/mass followed the russian tongue.
Power don't come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big and gettin' the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you've got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain't true, you've got 'em by the balls.
If you're not a follower, you'll understand the point of that video:
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I haven't seen the contract and I very much doubt you have so you are very very very unlikely to know what the reality of the terms is. BUT no lawyer is going to draft a contract including a rematch and not have language that states what the penalties will be if the other side fails to perform. EVERY contract that is drawn up by a half way competent lawyer includes such provisions. The idea that "...none of the actual terms have been negotiated yet..." is clearly wrong.
My su****ion, given Duva's background, is that they were very well drafted, but Roc Nation have access to elite lawyers and I don't doubt that (a) when they negotiated the contract in the first place that they paid particular attention to the drafting of these provisions, (b) even if they didn't put a cleverly disguised Trojan horse, get out of jail free, card in there, they are quite capable of coming up with some ingenious theory of why they don't need to perform if indeed Ward doesn't want to.
As I said, I haven't read the contract, but the chance that there are no such terms in it is basically zero. The only issue is how well they were drafted and how onerous the penalties for non performance are.Comment
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