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  • baya
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    #21
    he has a lot of eric morales in him in that he fights down to his level of opposition difference being that morales never had the physical gifts that verdejo has.

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    • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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      #22
      Originally posted by HanzGruber
      i gotta go with this.. hes supposed ot be the next best thing years ago and still prospect level?

      Gervonta davis, gassiev and valdez came out of no where and already surpassed him

      lol hes from england
      Funny thing is, Verdejo was looking better than Valdez too.

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      • TheCell8
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        #23
        Sure, each fighter develops at their own pace, but great fighters usually develop by now into world champions.

        He's 23 years old, but he's had 23 professional fights and has been a pro for over 4 years. You add that to his amateur pedigree and he's way behind schedule. This is the time you take off the kid gloves If he's truly as special as they claim he is. Arum has treated him delicately with terrible opponents multiple times in a year. He hasn't even had what you'd consider a step up fight against a C-level fighter. I was going to suggest that he fights someone like Michael Farenas, rugged, durable but beatable fighter, but I don't even think he can even beat that guy. He's going to turn 24 in a few months and they're still going to be feeding him guys like Oliver Flores.

        Also, his marketability is going to plummet the more they keep delaying. It's going to be hard to promote him if his first title challenge happens at the age of 26. You can't even promote him as a young champion then. So the time is ticking and TR also knows this as well. They're going to cut bait with him in a year or so if he doesn't improve.

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        • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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          #24
          You are only as good as your last opponent. By that I mean that if you stay fighting the same level of fighters, you will never get any better. But the thing with Verdejo is, they're afraid to up the level of his competition because he's clearly not ready to step up.

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          • Strategic1
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            #25
            Verdejo is a prospect...still a prospect.
            There are many prospects in the game, but few pan out to be stars. There's still some time for Verdejo but all signs point to a good to great fighter,...but not 'special'. Things could change,..maybe he needs a new trainer,..maybe needs to train in the US or something.

            That said,..HBO has a roster filled with current and future stars headling their telecasts. Lomachenko, GGG, Golovkin, Crawford, Valdez, Chocolatito, Kovalev, possibly Berchelt...

            I don't see Verdejo surpassing many of these guys in the future. Headling cards? I doubt it. If he doesn't improve fast, he'll just be an undercard fighter .

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            • therealpugilist
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              #26
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              At 23, I believe Felix TRINIDAD was facing 56-0 with 48 KOs Yuri Boy Campas, lol. We're definitely living in a different time.
              Trinidad also faced a lot if no names and washed up former champs on his rise at welter

              Every fighter isn't an all time great or process at the same rate

              For every prodigy, ala Trinidad and may weather there are 20 decent fighters improving fight by fight

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              • therealpugilist
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                #27
                Seems like kovalevs supporters are more confident he won than he is no JDJ?

                What fighter who thinks he won a big fight, changes trainers before the rematch


                JDJ is better than anyone he'll find and helped him with punch variety, pacing himself, and rhythm

                Winners don't change their team....kovalev feels he lost on the inside n won't take responsibility or own up to it

                What you always do, won't work vs elite fighters, adapting is the name of the game

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                • RomanReigns
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                  #28
                  He needs to hire Roach.

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                  • ELPacman
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    Trinidad also faced a lot if no names and washed up former champs on his rise at welter

                    Every fighter isn't an all time great or process at the same rate

                    For every prodigy, ala Trinidad and may weather there are 20 decent fighters improving fight by fight
                    Yeah, but given my example to go back to the other guy's example of what are fighters doing at age 23, Yori was in his prime, and can you imagine someone like Verdejo doing the same? Taking on an undefeated monster puncher like Trinidad did at the same time?

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                    • Redd Foxx
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                      #30
                      If he was being majorly hyped around here, I could understand the backlash. But, I don't get why people dump on him endlessly without there being a whole lot of reason to. He's kind of benign. I don't care one way or the other. If he starts fighting real opponents, then let's talk about him.

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