Eubank/Quinlan Thread

[JACK1190]

Where's this myth coming from that Eubank has zero power? Who has he been in with that hasn't been hurt?

He's not exactly hurting world class guys is he? And it's more accumulation than anything. You can tell he doesn't have power when he's putting everything into his power shots and they don't really do much. As I said its high output that forces the stoppage, but could he do that with a fighter like DeGale? I don't think so.

[mlac]

Eubank Snrs chin is far beyond Jrs. It's not a discredit to Jnr really it's just Snr has one of those concrete heads. Junior doesn't.

It's partly assumption, we just don't know yet.

That's mainly the reason i want to see GGG v Eubanks to see if he really has inherited it.

[LacedUp]

He's not exactly hurting world class guys is he? And it's more accumulation than anything. You can tell he doesn't have power when he's putting everything into his power shots and they don't really do much. As I said its high output that forces the stoppage, but could he do that with a fighter like DeGale? I don't think so.

So what is the measure of having power? Saying someone has zero power - that's like a Ricky Burns or Paulie Malignaggi. Eubank is a pretty snappy puncher just not a one punch KO artist.

He stops and hurts everyone he fights, even BJS was on his last legs against him. He clearly has enough snap to hurt people.

[LacedUp]

It's partly assumption, we just don't know yet.

That's mainly the reason i want to see GGG v Eubanks to see if he really has inherited it.

I've seen Jnr be slightly buzzed a couple of times. Against BJS and Spike O'Sullivan. Even Blackwell buzzed him.

Snr was hit with hellacious punches from one of the best punchers I've ever seen and stood there unmoved. Totally different chin.

[techliam]

So what is the measure of having power? Saying someone has zero power - that's like a Ricky Burns or Paulie Malignaggi. Eubank is a pretty snappy puncher just not a one punch KO artist.

He stops and hurts everyone he fights, even BJS was on his last legs against him. He clearly has enough snap to hurt people.

He has OK power. He's not a heavy hitter though, as the commentary tonight said on a couple of occasions. He hits as hard as the average professional fighter from what I can see.

What worries me though, Eubank landed a wild left hook on Quinlan, the type that ends fights. It didn't faze him that much.

Then again, Eubank throws a lot of punches. Like Khan, I don't think power is at the top of the priority list.

[JACK1190]

So what is the measure of having power? Saying someone has zero power - that's like a Ricky Burns or Paulie Malignaggi. Eubank is a pretty snappy puncher just not a one punch KO artist.

He stops and hurts everyone he fights, even BJS was on his last legs against him. He clearly has enough snap to hurt people.

Yeah he's got snap in his punches but it's not the kind of power that stuns his opponents with two or three punches, unless they're tired. It's accumulation over the rounds. I mean early in the fight he was hitting Quinlan with some hard shots but they were doing nothing at all until late in the fight. And I feel DeGale would out point him.

[gmc_rfc_06]

He's not exactly hurting world class guys is he? And it's more accumulation than anything. You can tell he doesn't have power when he's putting everything into his power shots and they don't really do much. As I said its high output that forces the stoppage, but could he do that with a fighter like DeGale? I don't think so.

I don't think he'd need to stop him, I think he'd simply swamp DeGale with activity down the stretch. DeGale tires at the best of times at the half-way stage, against a constant puncher who would be on him constantly it would happen. I could see a late stoppage due to fatigue and getting stuck and hit on the ropes.

Medina was hitting and busting DeGale up and a heavily faded Dirrell was schooling him at times, his boxing skills are severely over-estimated.

Hopefully the fight happens and we'll find out. DeGale is playing it down, but Jr is calling for it. I believe the sparring situation a few years back sits with them both.

[LacedUp]

He has OK power. He's not a heavy hitter though, as the commentary tonight said on a couple of occasions. He hits as hard as the average professional fighter from what I can see.

What worries me though, Eubank landed a wild left hook on Quinlan, the type that ends fights. It didn't faze him that much.

Then again, Eubank throws a lot of punches. Like Khan, I don't think power is at the top of the priority list.

There's more to boxing than power. Spike O'sullivan hits considerably harder than Eubank but doesnt have the technique. Similarly to a guy like Carl Froch. Much much harder puncher but doesn't have the technique to be called a 'puncher'.

Eubank has enough power to take to world class level. What will fail him is his poor defense. His defense doesn't impress me at all.

Yeah he's got snap in his punches but it's not the kind of power that stuns his opponents with two or three punches, unless they're tired. It's accumulation over the rounds. I mean early in the fight he was hitting Quinlan with some hard shots but they were doing nothing at all until late in the fight. And I feel DeGale would out point him.

Plenty of fighters have that kind of power. Which other super middleweights are punchers to KO people with 2-3 punches? Callum Smith? Who else? Maybe the WBO champ.

Neither Degale or Jack are punchers. Probably less so or equal to Eubank, even though not as quick they have other things like proper technique to take them to the highest level.

Not sure about degale.

[mlac]

I've seen Jnr be slightly buzzed a couple of times. Against BJS and Spike O'Sullivan. Even Blackwell buzzed him.

Snr was hit with hellacious punches from one of the best punchers I've ever seen and stood there unmoved. Totally different chin.

I didnt see BJ or Nick buzz him at all.

He appeared to be buzzed at one point V spike, but you don't know how hurt he actually was, just assumption like i said.

[Dr Rumack]

Eubank's boxing is really lacking. Unless he's physically overwhelming an opponent I find it hard to see him beating anyone truly world level. He probably won't fight anyone on that level too often in any case so it might not matter all that much.