UKAD case against Tyson Fury coming up next week.

[Dr Rumack]

Not so much the Hammer fight- heh he was like 270 for that fight, and was talking about how unmotivated he was for the fight that he hardly trained at all. He still looked good in that fight.

Same for the Chisora rematch - he was in the mid 260's.

The Cunningham fight, and Wlad fight he was by far in his best shape, and when he's in shape like that, he's unbeatable, I agree 100% with you.

His ideal weight should be around 253.

People like to see dudes shredded like Wlad, and Joshua, but really, the best build to have for boxing past 6-8 rounds, is Fury. You want to be able to carry a little body fat, because that is FUEL! If you have muscle, your body's response is to try and supply it with oxygen through the blood. So you gas easier.

Fat is not 'fuel' in the context of a sporting contest. That is ridiculous. But muscle does demand oxygen and the more muscular a guy is the better his cardiovascular system needs to be.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I'm sure that the contraversial comments by Tyson Fury last year are the reason why UKAD decided to dig up an old test result and take action on it. Or rather, the reason why somebody else made that decision for them.

Do you trust the anti doping agencies 100%..?

Since when did men become so naive....

[Cheek busting]

Fat is not 'fuel' in the context of a sporting contest. That is ridiculous. But muscle does demand oxygen and the more muscular a guy is the better his cardiovascular system needs to be.

Yes it is - your body resorts to eating away at fat once glycogen deposits have been depleted. Your body keeps some of the glycogen and deposits in your liver for your brain to function - then your body turns to fat for energy.

I'd rather be 235 pounds, at 15% body fat, than 235 pounds at 8% body fat.

In any way - it's better to have a little extra body fat than muscle mass for boxing. Of course there is a limit - there's a threshold that is ideal, the perfect balance between body fat and lean muscle mass.

[Dr Rumack]

Yes it is - your body resorts to eating away at fat once glycogen deposits have been depleted. Your body keeps some of the glycogen and deposits in your liver for your brain to function - then your body turns to fat for energy.

It does not do this in the context of a fight which lasts for 50 minutes. Fat is converted too slowly to sustain high intensity activity and only serves some purpose in the context of marathon sporting events that last for hours and hours. And even then it is not a good source of energy because the extra weight cancels out any benefits relative to carbohydrate intake. Body fat is of no benefit to a fighter.

[Idgogay4AJ]

What a load of rubbish... If your fat your body is inefficient, if your 15/20% body fat your carrying extra weight that carries no purpose, your wearing a ruck sack full of bricks..

As for having a life threatening level of nandrolone?, there's bodybuilders shooting grams of the stuff daily, my minds blown with some of the fish wives tails past as facts in here....

[PRINCEKOOL]

As for having a life threatening level of nandrolone?, there's bodybuilders shooting grams of the stuff daily, my minds blown with some of the fish wives tails past as facts in here....

And are body builders healthy? so no body builders have died due to the abuse/side effects of steroids..?

Understand that Steroid's do not promote health! they slowly weaken the body, and that is why body builders have to take so much! cycles become less effective, due to androgen receptors being burnt out! and your liver being damage! a organ which has 500 functions within the body, which are critical for performance and especially recovery from exercise.

I am not telling any tails here mate, i am stating facts!

[Cheek busting]

It does not do this in the context of a fight which lasts for 50 minutes. Fat is converted too slowly to sustain high intensity activity and only serves some purpose in the context of marathon sporting events that last for hours and hours. And even then it is not a good source of energy because the extra weight cancels out any benefits relative to carbohydrate intake. Body fat is of no benefit to a fighter.

Well you either have body fat, or lean muscle mass.

There is a proper ratio - one that is best to be a boxer, IMO.

A boxing match is extremely intense, and I think the body most definitely could resort to tapping into it as energy. Especially considering how leading up to the fight, a lot of boxers completely dry themselves out, and only have had the chance to eat a few carb heavy meals within 24 hours of the fight. So the body is already low on glycogen deposits, and immediately available carbs/fats.

I'm not saying you want to add body fat, but I just think that it's better to have a little extra body fat rather than lean muscle mass.

I'm also talking mostly about the HW division... I'd rather be built like a Tyson Fury than a David Haye (who has had obvious stamina problems in the past).

So agree to disagree.

[Cheek busting]

What a load of rubbish... If your fat your body is inefficient, if your 15/20% body fat your carrying extra weight that carries no purpose, your wearing a ruck sack full of bricks..

As for having a life threatening level of nandrolone?, there's bodybuilders shooting grams of the stuff daily, my minds blown with some of the fish wives tails past as facts in here....

15% body fat is NOT fat? Do you know what you're talking about? I didn't say 15-20 - I said 15. 12-15% I think would be best for a HW.

If you have extra muscle mass as that weight - your body is going to be drained quicker because it's pumping so much oxygen to all those muscles.

Nobody is under 5% body fat - nobody - you'd be lying on abed in a hospital if you were.

[M Bison]

I hope they get this cheating clown who bathed on ******* just to duck the Wlad rematch

I've always thought he's on heavy PEDs for stamina

no fatso of that size can have that much stamina without PEDs

specially a lazy slob with poor work ethic like Fury

Yeah that is a bit of a red flag but sometimes people just have better stamina levels than others bit like strength, no?

Obviously you can improve it with lots of training but a guy as fat, isn't eating healthy etc... We'll see.

[M Bison]

15% body fat is NOT fat? Do you know what you're talking about? I didn't say 15-20 - I said 15. 12-15% I think would be best for a HW.

If you have extra muscle mass as that weight - your body is going to be drained quicker because it's pumping so much oxygen to all those muscles.

Nobody is under 5% body fat - nobody - you'd be lying on abed in a hospital if you were.

Steroids...

Bodybuilders.