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  • #21
    Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
    The whole thing was fishy anyways, but when Fury-Klitschko II was rescheduled for Oct'16 Fish-Eye Warren said the tribunal will happen after the fight goes through & then came the news that Fury failed VADA for coke, followed by Fury is medically unfit.. All along this looked a cover up to hide the drug tests results & postpone the hearing.. What I believe is after a lot of dust blown their way, Team Wlad put their lawyers to task & had them impose clauses in the rematch for VADA & also monitor the tribunal..
    Btw, here's the smoking gun regarding the Fury cover-up:

    Aschcroft was at pains to explain why Ukad does not discuss individual cases whilst the case is still ongoing. However, she explained that the board take into account mitigating circumstances that may totally absolve an athlete from responsibility, or adjudge them liable to a low or high extent. The degree of fault in negligence is reflected in the length of the ban;or no ban imposed at all, if the athlete was for example; suffering from a cognitive impairment.

    The process of this reasoning is intuitively sound and denotes the fact that any evidential mental impairment suffered by an athlete during the period in question, amounts to the view that this athlete may not have been accountable for their actions. This latter conclusion will necessarily rely on irrefutable evidence showing the athlete to have been mentally unfit.

    https://theeyeofmedia.com/tyson-fury...ot-get-banned/

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
      A thread for the guys who get virtually no shit from fans for having used PEDs.

      I'll start:

      Evander Holyfield
      Shane Mosley
      Tyson Fury
      Roy Jones
      James Toney
      Eric Morales
      Vitali Klitschko
      Fernando Vargas
      Andre Berto
      Orlando Salido

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      • #23
        The Shane Mosley situation has been a legit black eye for boxing for me since I've known the facts. Mosley has basically admitted to PED usage (although I believe he said he didn't know it was a PED which seems unlikely to me & for most cats caught hasn't been a successful defense) & he was never fined, suspended or had his win over ODLH turned into a NC as it should have been. I think the fact boxing is such a clusterf#ck helped that whole situation get swept under the rug for him & it not coming out in a timely fashion for sure helped him.

        Interestingly in the UFC if you admit to wrong doing with a banned substance you get suspended even without proof. One guy was suspended for admitting in his disclosure form that he had a IV despite not knowing the ml's used that could have been the difference in him being fine or not as far as the USADA is considered. Most disturbingly one guy was suspended for 2yrs for admitting to using DHEA (which shouldn't even be on the banned substance list to begin with), an alleged PED you can go buy at Walmart today off the counter for about $5. When tested for the "PED" it didn't show on his test, but since he admitted to it he's out for 2yrs of his short athletic career.

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        • #24
          What ever happened with the Roy Jones case? I remember he said it was from taking "Ripped Fuel" which you could buy almost anywhere at the time

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          • #25
            Now that I think about it, didn't Frans Botha get popped back in the 90's for steroid use? I think he got stripped of his title

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
              The Shane Mosley situation has been a legit black eye for boxing for me since I've known the facts. Mosley has basically admitted to PED usage (although I believe he said he didn't know it was a PED which seems unlikely to me & for most cats caught hasn't been a successful defense) & he was never fined, suspended or had his win over ODLH turned into a NC as it should have been. I think the fact boxing is such a clusterf#ck helped that whole situation get swept under the rug for him & it not coming out in a timely fashion for sure helped him.
              There is literally no way a guy could take EPO and a highly potent anabolic and not know he's on something illegal. It would be impossible. Everyone around him would see the difference. Trainers included.

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              • #27
                Lamont Peterson but I'm not sure if he gets a pass or we just don't care about Peterson. It's a thin line between a pass and not giving a sh.it.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                  There is literally no way a guy could take EPO and a highly potent anabolic and not know he's on something illegal. It would be impossible. Everyone around him would see the difference. Trainers included.
                  Yeah that's what sealed the deal on Shane for me. If I'm not mistaken you had to inject that crap too. Who injects something into their body without knowing what it is!?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
                    Lamont Peterson but I'm not sure if he gets a pass or we just don't care about Peterson. It's a thin line between a pass and not giving a sh.it.
                    I don't think he gets a pass, almost every post that mentions him mentions he's a dirty fighter.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                      I don't think he gets a pass, almost every post that mentions him mentions he's a dirty fighter.
                      Yeah anyone who started following the sport in the years after his failed test would probably think his name was actually PEDerson.

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