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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
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    SHOULD I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION AT A TIME. IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL ANSWER?


    WHY DID EICHNER SAY THIS:

    Eichner: "THE MASS SPECTROMETRY DATA THAT WE DO FOR THE CONFIRMATION SHOULD DEFINITELY BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF OTHER REGULATED PROGRAMS LIKE QUEST"

    YOU WON'T ANSWER ME. WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS WAS ALL ABOUT?

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      So are you arguing that he never answered the question about the confirmation? This is idiotic. The "AS WELL" is clearly stating that they use the same amount that WADA uses.

      WADA SETS IT TO 150, SO WE USE 150 AS WELL.

      This is not rocket science!

      AND STOP GIVING FALSE QUOTATIONS. HE DOES NOT SAY SCREENING TEST!!!! JESUS CHRIST, DUDE. YOU ARE BEING A COWARD!



      Wow. Why won't you do what I ask.

      Go back to the video. Does he say there is no need to do a confirmation analysis? Or does he say there is no need to do a confirmation analysis ON THERE.

      This is a simple question. Yet you won't answer.


      And no, YOU are missing a point. The screening for SMRTL or QUEST won't confirm the amount of marijuana metabolite because the amount the the machine finds, whether immunoassay or GC/MS, would include all similar compounds found. It would NOT show ONLY the carboxy-thc metabolite.


      screening methods are designed to detect entire classes of compounds and are not optimized for individual compounds.


      This is specifically about WADA's screening. What do you think about this?
      Is that you Bill (Clinton)?

      "So that would be the screening cutoff as well." Its as clear as day Bill!!!


      You do not understand. Screening by way of QUEST vs GCMS is not the same. So whatever you are reading is mixing you up!

      SRMTL is using GCMS. This can be used in various ways. The first level of analysis can find what they are looking for and able to get the concentration levels. If it comes back positive then they will use the GCMS and use more rigorous, extensive and time consuming methods to confirm the initial screening's findings.

      So to say, the screening results can come back with a positive or negative result. If its negative, then they STOP as SMRTL indicates.

      If the screening result comes back with a presumed positive test then they take the time to do a confirmation test on another aliquot from the urine sample. Confirmation is to confirm their initial presumed positive findings. With a NEGATIVE result they do not ..... there may be exceptions to this when its a borderline threshold case ... but that was not the case for Diaz.

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Is that you Bill (Clinton)?

        "So that would be the screening cutoff as well." Its as clear as day Bill!!!


        You do not understand. Screening by way of QUEST vs GCMS is not the same. So whatever you are reading is mixing you up!

        SRMTL is using GCMS. This can be used in various ways. The first level of analysis can find what they are looking for and able to get the concentration levels. If it comes back positive then they will use the GCMS and use more rigorous, extensive and time consuming methods to confirm the initial screening's findings.

        So to say, the screening results can come back with a positive or negative result. If its negative, then they STOP as SMRTL indicates.

        If the screening result comes back with a presumed positive test then they take the time to do a confirmation test on another aliquot from the urine sample. Confirmation is to confirm their initial presumed positive findings. With a NEGATIVE result they do not ..... there may be exceptions to this when its a borderline threshold case ... but that was not the case for Diaz.
        The goal of this article is to provide an inside view of how WADA-accredited laboratories identify athletes that use prohibited substances....

        screening methods are designed to detect entire classes of compounds and are not optimized for individual compounds.


        https://www.aacc.org/publications/cl...ry/sports-drug

        1. Why won't you address this? How did they get the specific amount of carboxy-THC if they only did a screening test?

        2. Did you not hear where Eichner first said "WADA set the level to 150????" This is why he said "we use 150 AS WELL."

        HE SAYS, " THAT WOULD BE OUR SCREENING CUT OFF AS WELL." THE AS WELL IS CLEARLY ABOUT WADA AND SMRTL, AND NOT ABOUT SCREENING AND CONFIRMATION. YOU HAVE SUCH POOR COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

        DUDE, IF YOU REALLY THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT, YOU WOULD STOP DUCKING, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, AND AGREE TO MY CHALLENGE.

        1. YOU KEEP DUCKING MY QUESTIONS.

        2. YOU KEEP DUCKING MY CHALLENGE.

        JUST ANSWER. WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS? WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE. DO YOU GET OFF ON GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL DAY? ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE AND LET'S STOP CLUTTERING THE BOARD WITH THIS BULLSHlT. SERIOUSLY. DO YOU AGREE?
        Last edited by travestyny; 02-25-2017, 04:06 AM.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          SHOULD I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION AT A TIME. IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL ANSWER?


          WHY DID EICHNER SAY THIS:

          Eichner: "THE MASS SPECTROMETRY DATA THAT WE DO FOR THE CONFIRMATION SHOULD DEFINITELY BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF OTHER REGULATED PROGRAMS LIKE QUEST"

          YOU WON'T ANSWER ME. WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS WAS ALL ABOUT?
          Their program/process of using GCMS is as good as any including QUEST ..... and?


          SMRTL tells you that there is no reason to do a confirmation test when the screening comes back negative ..... How hard is it to understand!!!!


          Why did we hear a 2 step process for QUEST and just a 1 step process done for SMRTL?
          QUEST we have 2 results but SMRTL only 1???


          Mentioned also by NSAC!!!!!
          "SMRTL had a 1 step system while QUEST actually did a 2 step system."


          Its over Bill ....

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          • Originally posted by adp02 View Post
            their program/process of using gcms is as good as any including quest ..... And?

            lmaoooo. This is your answer. They are saying that they are just as good. Why would he be bringing up confirmation results if.....they did no confirmation results?


            Lmaoooooooo! Oh my god you are a moron!

            Originally posted by adp02 View Post
            smrtl tells you that there is no reason to do a confirmation test when the screening comes back negative ..... How hard is it to understand!!!!
            did they say no reason to do a confirmation analysis on there??? Why do you keep ducking? It's fun having you squirm like this.

            Originally posted by adp02 View Post
            why did we hear a 2 step process for quest and just a 1 step process done for smrtl?
            Quest we have 2 results but smrtl only 1???


            mentioned also by nsac!!!!!
            "smrtl had a 1 step system while quest actually did a 2 step system."


            its over bill ....
            lmaooooooooooo. Really? So now you are "deflecting" to what that twat said, when it is clear she has no idea what she is talking about? The same woman who a week before saId smrtl was miles above quest. Lmaooooooo. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              1. Why won't you address this? How did they get the specific amount of carboxy-THC if they only did a screening test?

              2. Did you not hear where Eichner first said "WADA set the level to 150????" This is why he said "we use 150 AS WELL."

              HE SAYS, " THAT WOULD BE OUR SCREENING CUT OFF AS WELL." THE AS WELL IS CLEARLY ABOUT WADA AND SMRTL, AND NOT ABOUT SCREENING AND CONFIRMATION. YOU HAVE SUCH POOR COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

              DUDE, IF YOU REALLY THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT, YOU WOULD STOP DUCKING, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, AND AGREE TO MY CHALLENGE.

              1. YOU KEEP DUCKING MY QUESTIONS.

              2. YOU KEEP DUCKING MY CHALLENGE.

              JUST ANSWER. WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS? WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE. DO YOU GET OFF ON GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL DAY? ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE AND LET'S STOP CLUTTERING THE BOARD WITH THIS BULLSHlT. SERIOUSLY. DO YOU AGREE?
              I answered .... you cannot answer this simple question.

              Did SMRTLs SCREENING come back with a positive result? If so, let me know where was this mentioned in the hearing. Because if its NOT positive, why would they go about doing a confirmation on negative tests?


              BUT anyways, you are deflecting like Bill Clinton now. Parsing sentences and words to try to avoid saying that YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

              No wonder. How would you be able to say that Floyd's IV scandal smells all wrong if you cannot get yourself to say that you are wrong when SMRTL keeps on telling you .....

              Confirmation tests would be done on a positive threshold of marijuana NOT a negative.

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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Its over Bill ....
                Sure. This should be over.


                The bottom line is I'm ready to accept a challenge where unbiased judges settle it.


                Are you willing. You won't answer.


                I think that shows who got stomped into the ground, doesn't it? You kept talking about Mayweather ducking. Why do you keep ducking me?

                Why?

                Do you accept the challenge? Simple yes or no? If you say no, I'll leave you alone, little fella. But you should know...that shows you have no confidence in the bullshlt you are saying.

                I'LL BET ALL MY POINTS AND CONTROL OF MY SIG AND WON'T ACCEPT ANYTHING FROM YOU IF I WIN.

                THERE IT IS ON A SILVER PLATTER. DO YOU ACCEPT?

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  lmaoooo. This is your answer. They are saying that they are just as good. Why would he be bringing up confirmation results if.....they did no confirmation results?


                  Lmaoooooooo! Oh my god you are a moron!



                  did they say no reason to do a confirmation analysis on there??? Why do you keep ducking? It's fun having you squirm like this.



                  lmaooooooooooo. Really? So now you are "deflecting" to what that twat said, when it is clear she has no idea what she is talking about? The same woman who a week before saId smrtl was miles above quest. Lmaooooooo. Stop embarrassing yourself.

                  Bill, all I can say is get someone clearly objective and make them listen .... preferably an expert not a Floyd friendly waving fan.

                  Its as clear as day what was said. You cannot get yourself to say that YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    I answered .... you cannot answer this simple question.

                    Did SMRTLs SCREENING come back with a positive result? If so, let me know where was this mentioned in the hearing. Because if its NOT positive, why would they go about doing a confirmation on negative tests?
                    DUDE, THEY NEVER EVER MENTIONED A SCREENING TEST FOR WADA. THE WADA SCREENING TEST SCREENS FOR ALL PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES. DID THEY EVER SAY THE SCREENING TEST WAS NEGATIVE? NO. NEVER. THEY DIDN'T MENTION A SCREENING TEST!!!!

                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    BUT anyways, you are deflecting like Bill Clinton now. Parsing sentences and words to try to avoid saying that YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

                    No wonder. How would you be able to say that Floyd's IV scandal smells all wrong if you cannot get yourself to say that you are wrong when SMRTL keeps on telling you .....

                    Confirmation tests would be done on a positive threshold of marijuana NOT a negative.
                    DUDE. ADDRESS THE QUOTATION. THE SCREEN IS NOT OPTIMIZED FOR CARBOXY-THC. Yet they gave a final concentration for carboxy-THC. I believe they even used the word "final" at points in the video. How did they get the final concentration if it was a screen?

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Sure. This should be over.


                      The bottom line is I'm ready to accept a challenge where unbiased judges settle it.


                      Are you willing. You won't answer.


                      I think that shows who got stomped into the ground, doesn't it? You kept talking about Mayweather ducking. Why do you keep ducking me?

                      Why?

                      Do you accept the challenge? Simple yes or no? If you say no, I'll leave you alone, little fella. But you should know...that shows you have no confidence in the bullshlt you are saying.

                      I'LL BET ALL MY POINTS AND CONTROL OF MY SIG AND WON'T ACCEPT ANYTHING FROM YOU IF I WIN.

                      THERE IT IS ON A SILVER PLATTER. DO YOU ACCEPT?
                      DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!

                      So was Diaz's initial SCREENING result from SMRTL positive or negative?

                      If positive it would have been big news and would have been stated in the hearing. Let me know where that was stated. ...........GO!!!!!!

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