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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    How many things have i proven you wrong on now? How many times have you ducked me in the thunderdome? What about that poll? What about plasticizers. We both know who lost. The reason you won't stop is simply because you lost. The reason I don't give a **** is because I know you lost. Face it dude. You have nothing.



    And when did Pacquiao do full year testing? I'll wait....



    Possible for back acne Pacquaio? Let's see what you say.



    Still faking quotations? I told you to post that the head of WADA said that TUE shouldn't have been given. Did you step up. NOPE. I wonder why.



    LMAOOOOOO. Are you serious. All you had to say was "I have no proof. I can't prove anything. In fact, it doesn't appear possible with the ABP being used for 6 straight years, with undiluted samples, with everything sent to WADA, etc.



    Ohhhh is that right? Everything pointed to him cheated which is why.....no one is talking about this anymore. LMAO. Get over it. Your idol couldn't carry Mayweather's Jock strap and that kills you, so you drummed up a bunch of speculation.



    You agree the same for back acne pac and VADA. Ok. Let's continue.



    Unless.....unless......oh yea...you have no medical records and the WADA expert also agreed that he doesn't know about this case.



    "I don't know about that case."



    Why didn't he do his job...or did he?



    Diarrhea? What was his medical condition that the DCO witnessed. Maybe someone should go ask.



    The IV use is inconsequential to your bullshlt. You already stated the DCO did everything properly. You just went off on some whole other **** about how he was micro-dosing for 2 months. You can speculate that for any athlete you clown. How about that back acne on a grown ass man during this fight?

    Pacquaio:

    1. Back Acne
    2. Refused drug testing in the past
    3. Seemed to lose something when he was tested.
    4. Tried to cheat with Toradol before his team was stopped.
    5. Made up a **** load of excuses about why he couldn't give blood.
    6. Wanted CUT-OFF DATES for testing (I think that's particularly funny since you're talking about full year testing. He didn't even want testing up to the fight. lmaooooo)

    So tell me...was he doping? I just want a yes or no and a simple why. What do you think?
    You flipped or something? Still DEFLECTING onto Manny?

    Toradol? More deflections! Its not even banned! Step up your game!


    You listened to what the head of WADA TUE Committee said. USADA should not be handing out RETRO TUEs unless its for URGENT cases. Floyd's case was NOT URGENT! I remember in the past you admitted to that it wasn't because you thought it didn't have to be. Now that the head of WADA TUE Committee is saying what I keep on telling you, you are left with DEFLECTING.

    Its time you admit to being WRONG!!!

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Like I keep on telling you like a broken record, IT's more than possible.
      Oh, and one more question for you. Let's see how you handle this:


      Is it possible that he wasn't doping? What do you think?

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      • Originally posted by adp02 View Post
        you flipped or something? Still deflecting onto manny?

        Toradol? More deflections! Its not even banned! Step up your game!


        You listened to what the head of wada tue committee said. Usada should not be handing out retro tues unless its for urgent cases. Floyd's case was not urgent! I remember in the past you admitted to that it wasn't because you thought it didn't have to be. Now that the head of wada tue committee is saying what i keep on telling you, you are left with deflecting.

        Its time you admit to being wrong!!!

        why are you ducking the question. Is it because it proves that....all you have is speculation???? Lmaooooooooo!!!!


        Clown!

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          Dude, you just stated that the DCO did everything properly. Why are you worried about the IV? The method wasn't banned when a TUE was given, and USADA followed all rules didn't they? That means you have nothing.

          And no, I'm not deflecting. You drummed up this speculation. I'm simply going to prove you are a hypocrite and that it's ONLY SPECULATION

          Manny tried to use a substance that he shouldn't have. Didn't he? Didn't he? His team had to be stopped from doing it. He had back acne and claimed he fought 9 rounds with a fully torn rotator cuff injury.

          So tell me, ADP02. Was he juicing?

          LMAOOOOOOOOOOO. LET'S SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY! I CAN'T WAIT!
          Actually you made me realize that the DCO more than likely screwed up big time and I posted so in one of the posts above.


          Man, even if I was a Floyd faithful, how can I look at this chart and even think that Floyd required an IV? How can you be convinced when you never come back with anything that makes any sense?

          After what the head of WADA TUE Committee said it just looks bad for Floyd, sorry.


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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Actually you made me realize that the DCO more than likely screwed up big time and I posted so in one of the posts above.


            Man, even if I was a Floyd faithful, how can I look at this chart and even think that Floyd required an IV? How can you be convinced when you never come back with anything that makes any sense?

            After what the head of WADA TUE Committee said it just looks bad for Floyd, sorry.


            You still ducking?


            You deflected this whole post to Mayweather IV issue. Ok, let's talk Pacquiao.

            Acne is one of the many side effects from steroids. Acne occurs from the usage of steroids because the sebaceous glands on the skin secrete more oils due to the increase of androgen levels in the body from the steroids. Acne of steroid users is most commonly found on the back, shoulders and face.

            With his history of ducking blood tests, this whole back acne thing, and your speculation about how easy it is to beat WADA, do you think he was doping? Share your thoughts!

            ---edit----
            By the way, you do realize that the doctor had to prove Floyd's case to the independent TUEC, and this was all sent to WADA, right? I mean really prove the case. With specific details. Hmmm.
            Last edited by travestyny; 02-12-2017, 01:21 AM.

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              it just looks bad for Floyd, sorry.
              1. Back Acne
              2. Refused drug testing in the past
              3. Seemed to lose something when he was tested.
              4. Tried to cheat with Toradol before his team was stopped.
              5. Made up a **** load of excuses about why he couldn't give blood.
              6. Wanted CUT-OFF DATES for testing (I think that's particularly funny since you're talking about full year testing. He didn't even want testing up to the fight. lmaooooo)
              7. Has no ABP to go on.


              Does this look bad for Pacquaio? Does it look bad for Pacquiao after what Conte said about him being su****ious? Hmmm.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Oh, and one more question for you. Let's see how you handle this:


                Is it possible that he wasn't doping? What do you think?
                Here is me being 100% honest with this.

                I look at it mathematical and with probabilities not speculation as you like to call it.


                Q1) What is the likelihood that Floyd required a banned method by way of an IV and that he delayed so long because he couldn't urinate all that time? 0%

                I told you why.


                So if I think HONESTLY that there is 0% chance that Floyd had to use an IV then why did he use it?

                What it must be is due to him using PEDs. That is the most obvious choice. It should be at 100% unless I can think of another reason.

                One that is less likely but probable is that their whole team screwed up and didn't realize that Floyd needed a TUE to use the IV. Alex Ariza told Floyd that he should rehydrate by way of an IV because it will bring him back to 100% quicker (even though he was at 98%? already) and it will help him for the fight.

                Ariza likes to keep his fighters hyper-hydrated and monitors them closely with stats. With Floyd, they were for sure monitoring him even closer. So for you or anyone to make me believe that Floyd was dehydrated to the point of an IV is just crazy talk!!!

                Once they realized that they needed a TUE for that, either from a call from USADA or whatever, they had to think of how to correct that.

                So they came up with this RETRO TUE BS. I give this like 3% chance because I cannot believe that they could have screwed up like that.


                You do not have to believe me but the above is me being honest. Everything points to what I'm saying. Floyd had USADA or else Floyd would have been in big trouble!

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Here is me being 100% honest with this.

                  I look at it mathematical and with probabilities not speculation as you like to call it.


                  Q1) What is the likelihood that Floyd required a banned method by way of an IV and that he delayed so long because he couldn't urinate all that time? 0%

                  I told you why.


                  So if I think HONESTLY that there is 0% chance that Floyd had to use an IV then why did he use it?

                  What it must be is due to him using PEDs. That is the most obvious choice. It should be at 100% unless I can think of another reason.

                  One that is less likely but probable is that their whole team screwed up and didn't realize that Floyd needed a TUE to use the IV. Alex Ariza told Floyd that he should rehydrate by way of an IV because it will bring him back to 100% quicker (even though he was at 98%? already) and it will help him for the fight.

                  Ariza likes to keep his fighters hyper-hydrated and monitors them closely with stats. With Floyd, they were for sure monitoring him even closer. So for you or anyone to make me believe that Floyd was dehydrated to the point of an IV is just crazy talk!!!

                  Once they realized that they needed a TUE for that, either from a call from USADA or whatever, they had to think of how to correct that.

                  So they came up with this RETRO TUE BS. I give this like 3% chance because I cannot believe that they could have screwed up like that.


                  You do not have to believe me but the above is me being honest. Everything points to what I'm saying. Floyd had USADA or else Floyd would have been in big trouble!
                  Dude, you just admit that it's possible he wasn't blood doping.


                  So what the hell is the point of all of this typing.

                  Now I'll be completely honest and say:

                  1. I think you know, or should know by now, that the IV couldn't have masked anything. It was not allowed to dilute the sample. We know that. You never got anywhere with your specific gravity criticism. You will disagree, but it's clear to me and I think that's why you didn't want to take that to the thunderdome. You know that's bs.

                  2. Don't know how dehydrated he was. I do believe USADA followed their rules and Mayweather followed the rules. It's possible that USADA didn't do something properly, and that's when WADA is supposed to check them. They stand by what they did, WADA didn't check them, I can't say anything was wrong. Especially since they put all that info out there to the public like that.

                  There is a LARGE leap from saying he got the IV in lieu of WADA's rules, to he is abusing PED's. A LARGE leap. To accuse a man who passed 11 urine tests and 8 blood tests while following all of the rules. That is what doesn't smell right.

                  It's simply impossible for you to note any rule that Mayweather or USADA broke. Certainly not Mayweather, and for USADA, you need medical records, which we will never have unless the Russians go in and search it out.

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Dude, you just admit that it's possible he wasn't blood doping.


                    So what the hell is the point of all of this typing.

                    Now I'll be completely honest and say:

                    1. I think you know, or should know by now, that the IV couldn't have masked anything. It was not allowed to dilute the sample. We know that. You never got anywhere with your specific gravity criticism. You will disagree, but it's clear to me and I think that's why you didn't want to take that to the thunderdome. You know that's bs.

                    2. Don't know how dehydrated he was. I do believe USADA followed their rules and Mayweather followed the rules. It's possible that USADA didn't do something properly, and that's when WADA is supposed to check them. They stand by what they did, WADA didn't check them, I can't say anything was wrong. Especially since they put all that info out there to the public like that.

                    There is a LARGE leap from saying he got the IV in lieu of WADA's rules, to he is abusing PED's. A LARGE leap. To accuse a man who passed 11 urine tests and 8 blood tests while following all of the rules. That is what doesn't smell right.

                    It's simply impossible for you to note any rule that Mayweather or USADA broke. Certainly not Mayweather, and for USADA, you need medical records, which we will never have unless the Russians go in and search it out.
                    1. Studies have shown you to be incorrect. IT does not need to be below the levels stated by WADA to be below thresholds and you need to learn about that .... I tried. Then there is micro-dosing .... you do not believe that either.
                    Floyd can do no wrong for you.

                    but you check out the site, they are doing it.

                    2. He was not severally dehydrated. That chart I pulled up makes it look obvious he wasn't even close to moderate. So something happened that does NOT make sense and all I can think of is that USADA gave Floyd a gift called RETRO TUE.

                    Other athletes declared too and USADA acknowledged that they believed the athletes story but still they said, rules are rules and gave them a reduced suspension but its still a suspension. Told them to go learn the rules.


                    The leap is not large to go from having an IV to stating it was for PEDs. Why else would he have gotten an IV when he didn't require an IV and there was a very simple alternative which was drinking orally and we both saw that happen on video multiple times before and after. So it not even a leap!


                    You have a Russian friend? The full truth may eventually come up. It may come from someone inside who witnessed it all.

                    Maybe Alex Ariza when he is older and retired and wants to write a book to make tons of money. What better way!


                    .
                    Last edited by ADP02; 02-12-2017, 02:01 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      1. Studies have shown you to be incorrect. IT does not need to be below the levels stated by WADA to be below thresholds and you need to learn about that .... I tried. Then there is micro-dosing .... you do not believe that either.
                      Floyd can do no wrong for you.

                      but you check out the site, they are doing it.
                      You didn't show any studies that confirmed that. And micro-dosing is purely speculating.

                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      2. He was not severally dehydrated. That chart I pulled up makes it look obvious he wasn't even close to moderate. So something happened that does NOT make sense and all I can think of is that USADA gave Floyd a gift called RETRO TUE.

                      Other athletes declared too and USADA acknowledged that they believed the athletes story but still they said, rules are rules and gave them a reduced suspension but its still a suspension. Told them to go learn the rules.
                      This is what I don't understand about you. Why are you purposely getting this wrong? What the other athletes did is NOT what Floyd did. If you think I'm biased in Floyd's favor, you are clearly biased against him. That is clear.

                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      The leap is not large to go from having an IV to stating it was for PEDs. Why else would he have gotten an IV when he didn't require an IV and there was a very simple alternative which was drinking orally and we both saw that happen on video multiple times before and after. So it not even a leap!
                      Dude......Do you know how often athletes use IVs? Come on now. Don't be ridiculous.

                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      You have a Russian friend? The full truth may eventually come up. It may come from someone inside who witnessed it all.

                      Maybe Alex Ariza when he is older and retired and wants to write a book to make tons of money. What better way!

                      .

                      Well hey, Mayweather hinted that Ariza told him some things about Manny, and it didn't seem like anything good. So yea... I guess we'll see. I have a feeling you will be waiting a very long time....and most likely you will be disappointed.

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