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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    I keep answering your naïve questions with FACTs .....
    read your silly posts. You then come back and DEFLECT.

    Well that is why your name from now on is called DEFLECTOR!!!


    You cannot admit the obvious ... YOU WERE WRONG!





    FLOYD Mayweather: The head of the WADA TUE Committee and the other guy both agreed that Floyd should not have received a RETRO TUE and that its used for URGENT type cases.THey both used words that I used in the past. Too bad so sad!

    "REd Flag , Murky water, RETRO TUE is for URGENT cases, USADA gave a TUE after 21 days (crazy late), USADA should be but wasn't totally independant .... and more."




    EPO: I already gave you information and I see that you DEFLECT because you can see that YOU WERE WRONG!!! Micro-dosing maintained levels (RBC, RET,...)





    BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT: Its a tool but if you are careful, it can be thwarted just like the other tests(tools) can be thwarted.


    Floyd passed tests: USADA said not to be naive in thinking that a negative test means that the athlete is PEDs free. Was Lance Armstrong PEDs free? I can name yo umany who passed many times but got caught once to prove tha tthose other times, he was better at hiding PEDs but screwed up one time.


    Here is more on how micro-dosing improves and maintains performance and how BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT can be passed:
    "two major hurdles still to overcome: I needed the help of an accredited World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) scientist with access to the passport software, which is easier said than done; and I needed some EPO, which is only available in the UK on prescription, usually reserved for sick people with low blood counts."

    I knew the drugs were working - even though I had been taking tiny dosages - because my haemoglobin and reticulocyte numbers were rising steadily but I had no idea if my passport would pass off the fluctuations as normal.

    By week 10, I was fairly confident the drugs had given my training a hefty kick but I went back to the lab for another VO2 max test to make sure.

    I flew past my previous mark and hung on for more than 12 minutes and 375 watts. This gave me a score of 63, a 7% increase in seven weeks. When you consider that even half a percentage point can make the difference in elite sport, that is a huge bump.

    "I was now into week 11, the "washout" phase. I was still training but I had stopped taking EPO.

    This is the point that real cheats should be most worried because the body wants to reset its blood values to normal, which, if it happens too quickly, can cause a spike in the OFF score, or a dip in the reticulocyte count.


    That can trigger a red flag in the biological passport.

    I sent away 14 samples taken over 14 weeks to my confidential anti-doping source, and these numbers were run through the passport software.

    Even though I was half-expecting it, I was still shocked when the result came through. I had passed.

    Despite taking EPO for seven weeks, seeing steady rises in my haemoglobin and haematocrit counts, and gaining a significant performance benefit, I was clean.


    He said he could see "traces" of what I had done but "not of a sufficient magnitude to elicit an adverse analytical finding" in the passport.


    "There is no evidence that you have injected yourself with EPO," said Lundby.

    "If you were an athlete, you would have gotten away with it."
    "


    When I went to Montreal to interview Wada's chief executive David Howman, I put the findings of my experiment to him.

    "We certainly know that people try to get to the margins of beating systems and the passport will be no exception to that," said Howman.

    "(But the passport) has made a big difference. It's substantially reduced, I would say, over-abuse of some of the blood doping that we knew in the past.

    "It's not a panacea. It's another tool in the toolkit, so to speak, and it's used not only to find somebody breaking the rules, (but) also to say: 'This guy's got a profile which is a bit wonky. Go and target-test that guy'."

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932


    So as I told you years ago. Testing, Biological Passport is a tool. You laughed and even now are doing that. You must feel dumb AGAIN!!
    It's NOT something that will catch everything. Athletes, studies and even the head of WADA TUE committee told you and even above, Wada's chief executive David Howman told you.

    It must be sad being always WRONG Travestyny!!!




    Travestyny:
    Wrong about RETRO TUEs as per head of WADA committee statements.

    WRONG about micro-dosing on EPO as it can be effective at maintaining levels and as you read above, substantially effective.

    WRONG about Biological Passport: As I kept telling you its a tool but can be beat and everyone agrees with me!!!


    Floyd Mayweather: Why do it if he passed other times? You are not this dumb. Why did Lance Armstrong take an IV? Why do others try to delay and avoid? Why did others who couldn't evade have a positive results that one time where they had negative results many many times before that?
    Cycling and other sports have many tests. More than Floyd and yet some beat the tests. Yet, you ask me such silly questions like as if its not possible or something.



    Now you are left with no choice. Just admit that YOU ARE WRONG



    OR

    You are the man they call DEFLECTOR!!!!



    You forgot to post this part of the article........



    No, I was not subjected to targeted testing, but with drugs like EPO having such a short detection time the testers have to get pretty lucky to get a positive from a urine sample.



    ......pact@rd.



    "Sugar cubes in a swimming pool." That's target testing.


    Floyd and Manny were bullseye sniper pin point 100k target tested.

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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      Just wanted to point out why you're a ****** pact@rd.


      1. You don't know what "placebo effect means" when David Gerard mentioned it in the pod cast.

      2. Athletes that successfully "microdose" stay under the radar and are never target tested.

      Example - manipulate T/E samples to avoid CIR testing.

      3. Your case study is from 2005/2006.

      4. ABP software/testing - which you have admitted to know nothing about - makes it more of a risk than reward for high profile athletes. ESPECIALLY for FLOYD and MANNY who were subject to the full menu and most xpensive test done in history of a single event of two people.



      Idiot.
      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      I keep answering your naïve questions with FACTs .....
      read your silly posts. You then come back and DEFLECT.

      Well that is why your name from now on is called DEFLECTOR!!!


      You cannot admit the obvious ... YOU WERE WRONG!





      FLOYD Mayweather: The head of the WADA TUE Committee and the other guy both agreed that Floyd should not have received a RETRO TUE and that its used for URGENT type cases.THey both used words that I used in the past. Too bad so sad!

      "REd Flag ,
      Murky water,
      RETRO TUE is for URGENT cases, USADA gave a TUE after 21 days (crazy late)
      RETRO TUE only came to light 21 days after the fight.
      ,
      USADA should be but wasn't totally independant ....


      USADA was being directly paid, its a murky world

      I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me.

      Someone needing surgery (Urgent), TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE. Floyd's case: That is when I challenge the system. Its a red flag."




      EPO: I already gave you information and I see that you DEFLECT because you can see that YOU WERE WRONG!!! Micro-dosing maintained levels (RBC, RET,...)





      BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT: Its a tool but if you are careful, it can be thwarted just like the other tests(tools) can be thwarted.


      Floyd passed tests: USADA said not to be naive in thinking that a negative test means that the athlete is PEDs free. Was Lance Armstrong PEDs free? I can name yo umany who passed many times but got caught once to prove tha tthose other times, he was better at hiding PEDs but screwed up one time.


      Here is more on how micro-dosing improves and maintains performance and how BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT can be passed:
      "two major hurdles still to overcome: I needed the help of an accredited World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) scientist with access to the passport software, which is easier said than done; and I needed some EPO, which is only available in the UK on prescription, usually reserved for sick people with low blood counts."

      I knew the drugs were working - even though I had been taking tiny dosages - because my haemoglobin and reticulocyte numbers were rising steadily but I had no idea if my passport would pass off the fluctuations as normal.

      By week 10, I was fairly confident the drugs had given my training a hefty kick but I went back to the lab for another VO2 max test to make sure.

      I flew past my previous mark and hung on for more than 12 minutes and 375 watts. This gave me a score of 63, a 7% increase in seven weeks. When you consider that even half a percentage point can make the difference in elite sport, that is a huge bump.

      "I was now into week 11, the "washout" phase. I was still training but I had stopped taking EPO.

      This is the point that real cheats should be most worried because the body wants to reset its blood values to normal, which, if it happens too quickly, can cause a spike in the OFF score, or a dip in the reticulocyte count.


      That can trigger a red flag in the biological passport.

      I sent away 14 samples taken over 14 weeks to my confidential anti-doping source, and these numbers were run through the passport software.

      Even though I was half-expecting it, I was still shocked when the result came through. I had passed.

      Despite taking EPO for seven weeks, seeing steady rises in my haemoglobin and haematocrit counts, and gaining a significant performance benefit, I was clean.


      He said he could see "traces" of what I had done but "not of a sufficient magnitude to elicit an adverse analytical finding" in the passport.


      "There is no evidence that you have injected yourself with EPO," said Lundby.

      "If you were an athlete, you would have gotten away with it."
      "


      When I went to Montreal to interview Wada's chief executive David Howman, I put the findings of my experiment to him.

      "We certainly know that people try to get to the margins of beating systems and the passport will be no exception to that," said Howman.

      "(But the passport) has made a big difference. It's substantially reduced, I would say, over-abuse of some of the blood doping that we knew in the past.

      "It's not a panacea. It's another tool in the toolkit, so to speak, and it's used not only to find somebody breaking the rules, (but) also to say: 'This guy's got a profile which is a bit wonky. Go and target-test that guy'."

      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932


      So as I told you years ago. Testing, Biological Passport is a tool. You laughed and even now are doing that. You must feel dumb AGAIN!!
      It's NOT something that will catch everything. Athletes, studies and even the head of WADA TUE committee told you and even above, Wada's chief executive David Howman told you.

      It must be sad being always WRONG Travestyny!!!




      Travestyny:
      Wrong about RETRO TUEs as per head of WADA committee statements.

      WRONG about micro-dosing on EPO as it can be effective at maintaining levels and as you read above, substantially effective.

      WRONG about Biological Passport: As I kept telling you its a tool but can be beat and everyone agrees with me!!!


      Floyd Mayweather: Why do it if he passed other times? You are not this dumb. Why did Lance Armstrong take an IV? Why do others try to delay and avoid? Why did others who couldn't evade have a positive results that one time where they had negative results many many times before that?
      Cycling and other sports have many tests. More than Floyd and yet some beat the tests. Yet, you ask me such silly questions like as if its not possible or something.



      Now you are left with no choice. Just admit that YOU ARE WRONG



      OR

      You are the man they call DEFLECTOR!!!!




      .

      You too are naïve I see. Read my post above.

      I can find you plenty of site which will show you that micro-dosing is effective .... and I laughed when you made the point about the year of the study. If its effective, it does NOT matter what year it is, as you name called, idioto!!!


      Biological Passport:
      Head of WADA TUE Committee said it can be evaded.
      Director of WADA said the same.
      Athletes are using it and many have evaded and later admit to it too.
      Studies point to it too.
      My posts should be enough but go check for yourself.

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      • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        You forgot to post this part of the article........



        No, I was not subjected to targeted testing, but with drugs like EPO having such a short detection time the testers have to get pretty lucky to get a positive from a urine sample.



        ......pact@rd.



        "Sugar cubes in a swimming pool." That's target testing.


        Floyd and Manny were bullseye sniper pin point 100k target tested.
        What did it say after that? Go check out studies. They all point out that EPO is hard to detect after 12-18 hours, depending on the dose (micro-dose)!!!!!



        Lots of info out there .... stop being naïve!!!!

        Comment


        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          FLOYD Mayweather: The head of the WADA TUE Committee and the other guy both agreed that Floyd should not have received a RETRO TUE
          Lying sack of ****. Post it up. I want a direct quotation of the WADA guy saying he should not have gotten this TUE.

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          "REd Flag ,
          This right here proves you are wrong, you idiot. Do you know what a red flag is? This means you have to check into it more to see what's up. That alone proves that you are LYING about the guy saying Mayweather shouldn't have gotten the TUE. You keep bodying yourself you moron.

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          USADA should be but wasn't totally independant ....
          So because they were paid for their services, they aren't independent. What about Pacquiao and VADA? You ever going to answer?

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          EPO: I already gave you information and I see that you DEFLECT because you can see that YOU WERE WRONG!!! Micro-dosing maintained levels (RBC, RET,...)
          lmaoooo. First of all, YOU DEFLECT BECAUSE THE WADA EXPERT DISAGREES WITH YOU. Second, I already showed you how your study doesn't apply, yet you DUCK!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT: Its a tool but if you are careful, it can be thwarted just like the other tests(tools) can be thwarted.
          AFTER 6 YEARS OF DATA? EXPLAIN PLEASE!

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Floyd passed tests: USADA said not to be naive in thinking that a negative test means that the athlete is PEDs free. Was Lance Armstrong PEDs free? I can name yo umany who passed many times but got caught once to prove tha tthose other times, he was better at hiding PEDs but screwed up one time.
          SO SHOULD I ASSUME PACQUIAO IS GUILTY TOO? THAT'S ALL YOU ARE DOING, MORON.

          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Here is more on how micro-dosing improves and maintains performance and how BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT can be passed:
          "two major hurdles still to overcome: I needed the help of an accredited World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) scientist with access to the passport software, which is easier said than done; and I needed some EPO, which is only available in the UK on prescription, usually reserved for sick people with low blood counts."

          I knew the drugs were working - even though I had been taking tiny dosages - because my haemoglobin and reticulocyte numbers were rising steadily but I had no idea if my passport would pass off the fluctuations as normal.

          By week 10, I was fairly confident the drugs had given my training a hefty kick but I went back to the lab for another VO2 max test to make sure.

          I flew past my previous mark and hung on for more than 12 minutes and 375 watts. This gave me a score of 63, a 7% increase in seven weeks. When you consider that even half a percentage point can make the difference in elite sport, that is a huge bump.

          "I was now into week 11, the "washout" phase. I was still training but I had stopped taking EPO.

          This is the point that real cheats should be most worried because the body wants to reset its blood values to normal, which, if it happens too quickly, can cause a spike in the OFF score, or a dip in the reticulocyte count.


          That can trigger a red flag in the biological passport.

          I sent away 14 samples taken over 14 weeks to my confidential anti-doping source, and these numbers were run through the passport software.

          Even though I was half-expecting it, I was still shocked when the result came through. I had passed.

          Despite taking EPO for seven weeks, seeing steady rises in my haemoglobin and haematocrit counts, and gaining a significant performance benefit, I was clean.


          He said he could see "traces" of what I had done but "not of a sufficient magnitude to elicit an adverse analytical finding" in the passport.


          "There is no evidence that you have injected yourself with EPO," said Lundby.

          "If you were an athlete, you would have gotten away with it."
          "


          When I went to Montreal to interview Wada's chief executive David Howman, I put the findings of my experiment to him.

          "We certainly know that people try to get to the margins of beating systems and the passport will be no exception to that," said Howman.

          "(But the passport) has made a big difference. It's substantially reduced, I would say, over-abuse of some of the blood doping that we knew in the past.

          "It's not a panacea. It's another tool in the toolkit, so to speak, and it's used not only to find somebody breaking the rules, (but) also to say: 'This guy's got a profile which is a bit wonky. Go and target-test that guy'."

          http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932


          So as I told you years ago. Testing, Biological Passport is a tool. You laughed and even now are doing that. You must feel dumb AGAIN!!
          It's NOT something that will catch everything. Athletes, studies and even the head of WADA TUE committee told you and even above, Wada's chief executive David Howman told you.

          It must be sad being always WRONG Travestyny!!!
          LMAOOOOOO. IDIOT. FIRST OF ALL, THIS GUY DOESN'T HAVE 6 YEARS OF DATA. SECOND, WADA ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. DID YOU NOT DO ANY RESEARCH ON THIS SHlT AT ALL. WHAT'S NEXT? YOU GONNA BRING UP THE FRENCH STUDIES?


          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Travestyny:
          Wrong about RETRO TUEs as per head of WADA committee statements.

          WRONG about micro-dosing on EPO as it can be effective at maintaining levels and as you read above, substantially effective.

          WRONG about Biological Passport: As I kept telling you its a tool but can be beat and everyone agrees with me!!!


          Floyd Mayweather: Why do it if he passed other times? You are not this dumb. Why did Lance Armstrong take an IV? Why do others try to delay and avoid? Why did others who couldn't evade have a positive results that one time where they had negative results many many times before that?
          Cycling and other sports have many tests. More than Floyd and yet some beat the tests. Yet, you ask me such silly questions like as if its not possible or something.



          Now you are left with no choice. Just admit that YOU ARE WRONG



          OR

          You are the man they call DEFLECTOR!!!!




          .

          LMAOOOOOO. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WRONG?

          Let’s recap.

          Excuse 1: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on his shoulder. You agreed to take part in a thread with a poll about the issue, but you lost. You promptly called the poll biased. You failed!

          1A. You then argued that Pacquiao did go to rehab, but you lost that argument because you couldn’t get around the fact that…Pacquiao openly stated himself that he didn’t go to rehab. You failed!

          Excuse 2: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the judges. You claim that they were biased (another bias claim?). You couldn’t reconcile that 99% of people had Pacquiao losing this fight, and seemingly only 2 people in the entire boxing world thought Pacquiao won. You failed!

          Excuse 3: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the referee. Claimed he was biased (what a surprise). No proof of favoritism. No one of note has criticized this referee regarding this fight. You failed!

          Excuse 4: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the state of Nevada. Claim it is biased (lol). No proof at all. You failed!

          Excuse 5: You tried to blame Pacquia’s loss on the NSAC. Claimed they were biased (this is getting ridiculous). How did they affected the outcome of this fight? They withheld Pacquiao’s anti-inflammatories for an injury that now his surgeon, his promotor, his coach, and Pacquiao himself claim he didn’t have. Also the NSAC doctors found no proof of this injury going into the fight. You Failed!

          Excuse 6: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on USADA. You claim they gave a TUE to Floyd Mayweather illegally based on a WADA expert’s statements that never say the TUE was granted illegally, and the WADA expert also states that he is not aware of the details of this case. You Failed!

          6A. You claimed that the TUE had to be given because the labs would find plasticizers in Mayweather’s sample, without realizing that not only do the labs not do this urine test, but also, it is highly unlikely that an IV bag in 2015 will utilize any plasticizers. You failed!

          Excuse 7: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on a frivolous belief that Mayweather was microdosing. The aforementioned WADA expert clearly states that micro-dosing is pointless, has no effect the next day, and is a victory for anti-doping if an athlete attempts to use it. He also states that the prowess of the independent labs is so great that it would be extremely ****** to attempt to dope and pass a drug test. You failed.

          Excuse 8: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the labs faulty use of the specific gravity test. You then cowardly try to say your point is not about the specific gravity test after you are shut down. Two experts show you why you are wrong about this, and you fail to provide any expert that agrees with you. Oh, and you promptly say the experts are biased (heard that before). You failed!

          8a. You then cowardly falsify quotations and try to state the experts agree with you because they say different labs will have different protocols that would make all results correct, yet you duck explaining how Quest clearly got a test WRONG that SMRTL got right. Proof that your “different protocols” argument is misinformed since it clearly does not prove that the results of each lab will always be correct. You Failed!

          For a grown man to make this many excuses is embarrassing…and the sad part is that there are even more failures. Give the **** up and take your crying elsewhere. No one cares anymore.

          BUT HEY, I STILL WANT YOU TO DO SOME EXPLAINING. TAKE ME THROUGH HOW YOU BELIEVE FLOYD DID THIS. I'M DYING TO HEAR THIS. WHY ARE YOU DUCKING MY QUESTIONS!

          Comment


          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            First, you say that Mayweather was micro-dosing and taking other PED’s for weeks before the fight, right? So please explain to me….how did he pass all of the blood and urine tests BEFORE the IV? How did he fool the athlete biological passport after 6 years of data? I would love to know. Please explain.

            Second, why would he need an IV infusion to pass a urine test when he had already been passing these tests for weeks? If he was doing more than micro-dosing, as you say, why didn't anything show up on the final blood and urine tests? Why wouldn't a big difference be shown in his athlete biological passport from the IV sample to the final sample? How does this make any sense to you?


            I’d love to hear your answers. Don't duck it, biotch. Please answer my questions so I can stomp you into the ground once more, and for the last time you desperate, fake quotation giving, cowardly, ball-less bltch.
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            I keep answering your naïve questions with FACTs ......

            YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ONE FACT ABOUT THIS. NOT ONE. ALL YOU DO IS DUCK, JUST LIKE YOU DUCKED THE ABOVE!

            LET'S GET TO YOUR SPECULATION. I WANT TO HEAR HOW YOU BELIEVE MAYWEATHER DID THIS. LET'S START FROM HERE:

            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Some its just a simple mistake in timing, dosing, masking, body reaction, some its just having the DCO arrive at a bad time. A time that they were NOT expecting. So same with Floyd Mayweather. So to say, others have many negative tests in their books but the important things is not to be naive about it and say that it proves something. It does NOT!

            Ok, so this is the beginning of your speculation, correct. We have the DCO arriving at a “bad time.” A time that Mayweather was NOT expecting. Ok. How do you reconcile this:

            Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete.
            OK. So the DCO, who arrived before the IV, was present during the IV, and remained present until well after the IV, was “made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition.” So common sense would tell the average person that if your conspiracy theory is to be believed:

            1. The DCO was a part of the plot to help Mayweather cheat since it’s clear that the DCO was not opposed to the IV based not only on information released by USADA that sates the DCO witnessed Mayweather’s physical condition that made the IV necessary, but also evidence based on the DCO being present during the IV, and clearly a DCO who is not a part of this conspiracy wouldn’t sit around and watch an athlete cheat, right?

            Yet you claim Mayweather needed the IV because the DCO arrived unexpectedly. Now, if the DCO was a part of this conspiracy, there can be two scenarios:


            1. The DCO arrives unexpectedly and is not yet a part of this conspiracy:
            Why would Mayweather not know when he was coming…unless it’s your belief that a deal was made to allow Mayweather to cheat AFTER the DCO arrived. Not sure how allowing him to have the IV would guarantee that he would pass when it’s well documented that a partial sample from before the IV was taken, and there could be no guarantee that the sample would pass the independent labs’ test, right? So you’re saying Mayweather just offered him some money right there on the spot?


            or…

            2. The DCO was previously bought off:
            If the DCO was previously bought off, how would he be arriving unexpectedly? Why wouldn’t he notify Mayweather of when he plans to come?


            
This makes no sense. EXPLAIN, BlTCH!

            Comment


            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              Lying sack of ****. Post it up. I want a direct quotation of the WADA guy saying he should not have gotten this TUE.



              This right here proves you are wrong, you idiot. Do you know what a red flag is? This means you have to check into it more to see what's up. That alone proves that you are LYING about the guy saying Mayweather shouldn't have gotten the TUE. You keep bodying yourself you moron.



              So because they were paid for their services, they aren't independent. What about Pacquiao and VADA? You ever going to answer?



              lmaoooo. First of all, YOU DEFLECT BECAUSE THE WADA EXPERT DISAGREES WITH YOU. Second, I already showed you how your study doesn't apply, yet you DUCK!



              AFTER 6 YEARS OF DATA? EXPLAIN PLEASE!



              SO SHOULD I ASSUME PACQUIAO IS GUILTY TOO? THAT'S ALL YOU ARE DOING, MORON.



              LMAOOOOOO. IDIOT. FIRST OF ALL, THIS GUY DOESN'T HAVE 6 YEARS OF DATA. SECOND, WADA ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. DID YOU NOT DO ANY RESEARCH ON THIS SHlT AT ALL. WHAT'S NEXT? YOU GONNA BRING UP THE FRENCH STUDIES?





              LMAOOOOOO. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WRONG?

              Let’s recap.

              Excuse 1: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on his shoulder. You agreed to take part in a thread with a poll about the issue, but you lost. You promptly called the poll biased. You failed!

              1A. You then argued that Pacquiao did go to rehab, but you lost that argument because you couldn’t get around the fact that…Pacquiao openly stated himself that he didn’t go to rehab. You failed!

              Excuse 2: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the judges. You claim that they were biased (another bias claim?). You couldn’t reconcile that 99% of people had Pacquiao losing this fight, and seemingly only 2 people in the entire boxing world thought Pacquiao won. You failed!

              Excuse 3: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the referee. Claimed he was biased (what a surprise). No proof of favoritism. No one of note has criticized this referee regarding this fight. You failed!

              Excuse 4: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the state of Nevada. Claim it is biased (lol). No proof at all. You failed!

              Excuse 5: You tried to blame Pacquia’s loss on the NSAC. Claimed they were biased (this is getting ridiculous). How did they affected the outcome of this fight? They withheld Pacquiao’s anti-inflammatories for an injury that now his surgeon, his promotor, his coach, and Pacquiao himself claim he didn’t have. Also the NSAC doctors found no proof of this injury going into the fight. You Failed!

              Excuse 6: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on USADA. You claim they gave a TUE to Floyd Mayweather illegally based on a WADA expert’s statements that never say the TUE was granted illegally, and the WADA expert also states that he is not aware of the details of this case. You Failed!

              6A. You claimed that the TUE had to be given because the labs would find plasticizers in Mayweather’s sample, without realizing that not only do the labs not do this urine test, but also, it is highly unlikely that an IV bag in 2015 will utilize any plasticizers. You failed!

              Excuse 7: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on a frivolous belief that Mayweather was microdosing. The aforementioned WADA expert clearly states that micro-dosing is pointless, has no effect the next day, and is a victory for anti-doping if an athlete attempts to use it. He also states that the prowess of the independent labs is so great that it would be extremely ****** to attempt to dope and pass a drug test. You failed.

              Excuse 8: You tried to blame Pacquiao’s loss on the labs faulty use of the specific gravity test. You then cowardly try to say your point is not about the specific gravity test after you are shut down. Two experts show you why you are wrong about this, and you fail to provide any expert that agrees with you. Oh, and you promptly say the experts are biased (heard that before). You failed!

              8a. You then cowardly falsify quotations and try to state the experts agree with you because they say different labs will have different protocols that would make all results correct, yet you duck explaining how Quest clearly got a test WRONG that SMRTL got right. Proof that your “different protocols” argument is misinformed since it clearly does not prove that the results of each lab will always be correct. You Failed!

              For a grown man to make this many excuses is embarrassing…and the sad part is that there are even more failures. Give the **** up and take your crying elsewhere. No one cares anymore.

              BUT HEY, I STILL WANT YOU TO DO SOME EXPLAINING. TAKE ME THROUGH HOW YOU BELIEVE FLOYD DID THIS. I'M DYING TO HEAR THIS. WHY ARE YOU DUCKING MY QUESTIONS!


              The DEFLECTOR DEFLECTED AGAIN!!!! What a surprise...... maybe that is what SPOON was warning me about with you. It was a while back. Hope he can refresh my memory.

              THey all said it. I got you 2 top guys from WADA and more ..... you came back with "You are not stating the truth" and "YOU FAILED"


              Now go back and read what was said by the 2 WADA personnel.

              1) Did they say that a Biological Passport can easily catch microdosing as you and DoNothing keep on bringing up? If yes, show me where!!!

              2) Did Head of WADA say that IV is the way to go or did he say "rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do."

              3) Did he call out Floyd situation as "URGENT" case or did he put it in the class of where a RETRO TUE would not be considered and gave 4 examples. 2 URGENT cases where it would be valid and 2 cases where it wouldn't?

              4) Did they call out what USADA did "good practice" or "murky world" and say "USADA wasn't acting totally independent"

              5) You were wrong about Biological Passports!!!

              6) You were wrong about EPO Mirco-dosing!!!


              So unless you come back with facts, just post back that you are going to DEFLECT so I do not need to read your nonsense!!!

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ONE FACT ABOUT THIS. NOT ONE. ALL YOU DO IS DUCK, JUST LIKE YOU DUCKED THE ABOVE!

                LET'S GET TO YOUR SPECULATION. I WANT TO HEAR HOW YOU BELIEVE MAYWEATHER DID THIS. LET'S START FROM HERE:




                Ok, so this is the beginning of your speculation, correct. We have the DCO arriving at a “bad time.” A time that Mayweather was NOT expecting. Ok. How do you reconcile this:



                OK. So the DCO, who arrived before the IV, was present during the IV, and remained present until well after the IV, was “made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition.” So common sense would tell the average person that if your conspiracy theory is to be believed:

                1. The DCO was a part of the plot to help Mayweather cheat since it’s clear that the DCO was not opposed to the IV based not only on information released by USADA that sates the DCO witnessed Mayweather’s physical condition that made the IV necessary, but also evidence based on the DCO being present during the IV, and clearly a DCO who is not a part of this conspiracy wouldn’t sit around and watch an athlete cheat, right?

                Yet you claim Mayweather needed the IV because the DCO arrived unexpectedly. Now, if the DCO was a part of this conspiracy, there can be two scenarios:


                1. The DCO arrives unexpectedly and is not yet a part of this conspiracy:
                Why would Mayweather not know when he was coming…unless it’s your belief that a deal was made to allow Mayweather to cheat AFTER the DCO arrived. Not sure how allowing him to have the IV would guarantee that he would pass when it’s well documented that a partial sample from before the IV was taken, and there could be no guarantee that the sample would pass the independent labs’ test, right? So you’re saying Mayweather just offered him some money right there on the spot?


                or…

                2. The DCO was previously bought off:
                If the DCO was previously bought off, how would he be arriving unexpectedly? Why wouldn’t he notify Mayweather of when he plans to come?


                
This makes no sense. EXPLAIN, BlTCH!
                Go read up Lance Armstrong.

                Best technique to avoid is delay being tested. Floyd delayed the process 6 hours! CHECK

                Best way to dilute is IV but hard to do with DCO around but Floyd did it. CHECK


                EPO for example has a short window of detection. Delays and diluting the urine sample could do the trick. Guarantees? Nope but Floyd was left with no choice once the DCO came to get the urine sample.


                Nope, DCO is not a doctor and does not need to stop the IV use. DCO can just document it that it was used ... and then had Floyd sign that he used an IV. Hence, we have a paper trail!!! KABOOM!



                BUT all this is just you DEFLECTING again.


                How would Lance Armstrong use an IV with the DCO there? Well he did and if you read up, is not the only one to do that! So stop it with the DEFLECTIONS!!! It just makes you look very naïve on this subject.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  The DEFLECTOR DEFLECTED AGAIN!!!! What a surprise...... maybe that is what SPOON was warning me about with you. It was a while back. Hope he can refresh my memory.

                  THey all said it. I got you 2 top guys from WADA and more ..... you came back with "You are not stating the truth" and "YOU FAILED"
                  You got 2 top guys from WADA? WHO??? Who did you get? You need to stop lying. All you do is lie.

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Now go back and read what was said by the 2 WADA personnel.

                  1) Did they say that a Biological Passport can easily catch microdosing as you and DoNothing keep on bringing up? If yes, show me where!!!
                  Sure. I'll show you what they said about the French report about beating the ABP. You did read that before, didn't you?

                  The study attempted to demonstrate how athletes could avoid detection from the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) through the process of micro-dosing, whilst they athletes displayed an average improvement of 6.1 per cent in the VO2 max test, as well as 2.3 and 2.8 per cent gains in the time trial and runs respectively.

                  WADA have now confirmed that they are now aware of the five completed profiles produced by the study and in a statement outlined that the ABP would have flagged up the profiles as possible doping cases.

                  “Of those five, two would have been considered “positive” cases under the ABP model if properly used, and three would have been “su****ious” cases leading to targeted testing,” the statement read.
                  Or do you need something regarding what you found about a guy doping for 11 weeks. LMAO. Here:

                  While the programme suggests that the journalist, through his experiment, was able to enhance his performance without recording an adverse analytical finding (AAF), we haven’t been provided any information that would validate this allegation nor is there anything in the programme which would indicate that his profile would have “beaten” the ABP programme.
                  How's that? You also fail to realize that it's much different for someone who has 6 MOTHA****ING YEARS OF BEING MONITORED, YOU COMPLETE MORON!

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  2) Did Head of WADA say that IV is the way to go or did he say "rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do."
                  Um, excuse me. I believe he said "why couldn't they hydrate him orally. That is a question, you imbecile. Do you know the answer?

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  3) Did he call out Floyd situation as "URGENT" case or did he put it in the class of where a RETRO TUE would not be considered and gave 4 examples. 2 URGENT cases where it would be valid and 2 cases where it wouldn't?
                  He also mentioned diarrhea. Going by your logic, you should have been rushed to the hospital by now with all the **** that leaks out of your mouth.

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  4) Did they call out what USADA did "good practice" or "murky world" and say "USADA wasn't acting totally independent"
                  Being that he clearly stated that WADA can review and overturn the TUE, yet they didn't, I think that qualifies as WADA either having no problem with what happened, or WADA being bad at their job. It's all sitting in their database, is it not?


                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  5) You were wrong about Biological Passports!!!
                  You wish, bltch. You just have no idea of what you are talking about. You ever going to explain how he did this with 6 years of data? Do you think the guy you mentioned had 6 years of data? He had more like 6 weeks, you ******.

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  6) You were wrong about EPO Mirco-dosing!!!
                  Then why won't you explain how he did this? You duck my questions because even you know that it makes no sense, you butthurt imbecile. The only question left here is...how could Pacquiao losing to Mayweather have affected your life so much that it's made you into a bumbling idiot only put here to get smacked around day after day.

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  So unless you come back with facts, just post back that you are going to DEFLECT so I do not need to read your nonsense!!!
                  Says the man who had no facts at all. You're too ****** to comprehend what you're reading. The guy had no information about Floyd Mayweather. If that's all it takes...then how about this:

                  Here's another guy from WADA who had no details of a particular case (Pacquiao) but is giving his opinion of something that may not smell right to him. Perhaps you can offer us your opinion on this:

                  Even the World Anti-Doping Agency is taking a hard look at the usage of this drug (Toradol). While the "non-steroidal" part is highlighted by those using the drugs and there are no real connections between corticosteroids and anabolic steroids, that hasn't stopped some from calling it a performance-enhancer.

                  Hans Geyer, the deputy director of WADA, said that he considered anti-inflammatories a "doping substance."

                  There is obviously a need to treat competitors in an event if they are in pain.(Manny Pacquiao: "No, I did not have pain or injury before the fight."). But out of competition(Pacquaio confirmed use out of competition) he is worried that about the use of medicines. Athletes may be able to improve their training performance because they don't need such a long recovery time after a hard session.(Yep, Pacquiao did this!)

                  "It is a grey zone. In my opinion pain killers fulfill all requirements of a doping substance because normally pain is a protection mechanism of the body and with pain killers you switch of this protection system, like if you switch off fatigue, which is also a protection mechanism of the body.

                  "Painkillers really enhance performance but they have negative effects on body tissues, maybe irreversible effects."

                  "What we have seen from the Fifa studies is that often athletes take the pain killers as a preventive. They take them to prevent a pain which may occur, to be totally insensitive.(Pacquaio: "I just want to make sure I'm still there." -- Tried to use Toradol as a preventative).
                  The problem is, if you switch off alarm systems that protect your tissues, you can have irreversible destruction of tissue.

                  Dr Geyer argues that the medical community often has no choice but to give in to the demands of high profile athletes.(Pacquaio)

                  "Doctors know that there may be problems with tissues and bones and the knees and they also know that if they allow the athlete to continue his training and competing with pain killing medications there will most probably be irreversible or long-term effects.

                  "But you know if an athlete doesn't receive the medication from one doctor he goes to the next and if he is a famous athlete he will receive everything. (Pacquaio) This is also a question that should be discussed."

                  Wahhhhhh. Someone from WADA who doesn't know all the details is saying something seems off to him. In your world this means.....Pacquiao is guilty of some wrongdoing, no?
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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Go read up Lance Armstrong.

                    Best technique to avoid is delay being tested. Floyd delayed the process 6 hours! CHECK
                    HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE QUESTIONS?????? HOW DID HE PASS ALL OF THE OTHER TESTS. DUCKINGGGG!


                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Best way to dilute is IV but hard to do with DCO around but Floyd did it. CHECK
                    LMAOOOOOOOO. THE SAMPLE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DILUTED. HOW DID HE DILUTE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DCO? PLEASE EXPLAINNNNN!

                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    EPO for example has a short window of detection. Delays and diluting the urine sample could do the trick. Guarantees? Nope but Floyd was left with no choice once the DCO came to get the urine sample.
                    SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE DCO WASN'T IN ON ANY OF THIS....BUT IT'S STATED THAT HE WITNESSED MAYWEATHER'S CONDITION THAT REQUIRED THE IV. SO...HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT?????

                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Nope, DCO is not a doctor and does not need to stop the IV use. DCO can just document it that it was used ... and then had Floyd sign that he used an IV. Hence, we have a paper trail!!! KABOOM!
                    SURE. NO PROBLEM. BUT IT SAID HE WITNESSED HIS CONDITION THAT MADE THE IV NECESSARY. IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS GUY WAS DOING HIS JOB ON THE UP AND UP, THEN WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT. ARE YOU ARGUING THAT BY WITNESSING WHY MAYWEATHER NEEDED THE IV...THIS MEANS HE WITNESSED NOTHING?? AHAHAHAHAHAHA

                    BOOOM!



                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    BUT all this is just you DEFLECTING again.


                    How would Lance Armstrong use an IV with the DCO there? Well he did and if you read up, is not the only one to do that! So stop it with the DEFLECTIONS!!! It just makes you look very naïve on this subject.

                    LMAOOOOO. KEEP BRINGING UP LANCE ARMSTRONG. THAT'S WHAT WE CALL....

                    DEFLECTING


                    WAS LANCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF A DCO WHEN HE HAD THE IV?


                    WAS HE???


                    LMAOOOOOOO. YOU JUST DUCKED AGAIN YOU LITTLE BlTCH. WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!!


                    GAME OVER!

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                    • Originally posted by adp02 View Post
                      go read up lance armstrong.

                      Best technique to avoid is delay being tested. Floyd delayed the process 6 hours! check

                      best way to dilute is iv but hard to do with dco around but floyd did it. check


                      epo for example has a short window of detection. Delays and diluting the urine sample could do the trick. Guarantees? Nope but floyd was left with no choice once the dco came to get the urine sample.


                      Nope, dco is not a doctor and does not need to stop the iv use. Dco can just document it that it was used ... And then had floyd sign that he used an iv. Hence, we have a paper trail!!! Kaboom!



                      But all this is just you deflecting again.


                      How would lance armstrong use an iv with the dco there? Well he did and if you read up, is not the only one to do that! So stop it with the deflections!!! It just makes you look very naïve on this subject.
                      Deflecting is right. You are not only a deflector...you are projecting because that's what you do and blame on others! Lmaooo

                      By the way:
                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      You are the man they call DEFLECTOR!!!!
                      .
                      LMAOOOOO. THEY???? It's just like you to make up some shlT...OR....I'VE BEEN STOMPING YOU SO BAD THAT NOW YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER??? I'VE ACTUALLY BEATEN YOU INTO BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE? WHO IS THIS "THEY" THAT YOU REFER TO? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO! DUDE. THIS SHlT IS HYSTERICAL TO ME. KEEP IT COMING!

                      Why didn't you give a clear answer?????

                      Seems you got stumped ahahahahahahaha


                      Actually, you seem to be doubling down that the DCO wasn't in on it. Did his job properly, right? Ok. Let's continue.

                      1. What do you think it means when they state the DCO witnessed Mayweather's physical condition that made the IV necessary? Please tell us your interpretation of this.

                      2. What do you think of the partial sample that was given from before the IV? Why didn't that foil this plan? Don't say because of a delay, because you don't know when Floyd delayed. When he delayed for the Mosley fight, the partial sample was given immediately. Why would this be any different?

                      3. The DCO measures specific gravity. How could Mayweather have diluted in front of this upstanding DCO? Remember, you were proven WRONG about IV use being allowed to dilute a sample. Weren't you? Weren't you???? (what a surprise...you being proven wrong is like he sun coming up at this point).

                      IV infusions before sample collection could actually prolong the doping control sample process because it has a greater potential to produce multiple dilute samples.
                      Did I add that to the list of things you were wrong about? I lost count

                      4. After 6 years of ABP data, how is Mayweather able to micro-dose, thus making his blood levels higher? Go look up the word "longitudinal," which is used to describe the ABP. Maybe then you will realize the mistake you are making, clown.

                      Please expain!!!! Or rather, give up. I'm tired of owning you. OH SORRY, I MEAN I'M TIRED OF OWNING ALL OF YOU SINCE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER NOW. LMAOOOO!!!!!!
                      Last edited by travestyny; 02-11-2017, 04:34 AM.

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