I think Roy Jones, Jr should stop wasting everyones time

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  • Not Monty
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    #21
    Speedy, slick boxers tend to go South pretty quickly. After the Johnson fight, my gut told me Roy would never be the same. Roy has clearly decided the paycheck is more important than bowing out gracefully and admitting, as a boxer, you are not and never will be the same.

    Anyone who thought Roy actually gave a **** in the third Tarver fight is a total fool. He wasnt there to fight. He wasnt there to redeem himself. He was there for the money.

    I just dont see how a boxing fan could give a damn about him anymore.

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    • AllEyesOpen
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      #22
      If you think fighters should fight as long as they feel they can then just take one good look at Medrick Taylor and see the outcome of that choice(at one point the next SRL, now the man can barely speak). I want too see boxers fighting in top form, I'm not looking to see someone past their prime get knocked out,and if they fight long enough killed.

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      • j
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        #23
        i say, as long as rjj fans will put money into roy's pocket, why not keep fighting?

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        • ferocity
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          #24
          yeah, jones jr. had a great career, beat a lot of fighters, knocked out a lot of them, but should have knocked out many more then he did.

          in my opinion what made jones great was his power, but as we all know as soon as he went up in weight going for the knock-out was no longer the case with him.

          jones jr. always pointed to gerald mccellans illness, for an excuse as to why he always goes 12 rounds, well, i don't know what happend to the roy who used to think safty first, but if this roy of today had the charector with the old roy, roy would have been even greater, he a good fighter, many say great so i aggree, but where he stands among those greats im not sure cause in his career i feel he ducked a few fighters and as another p4p fighter used to pick his opponets, but for the roy jones jr. fans of course roy fought his share of good fighters.

          and my take on tarver v. jones jr. 3, is that roy was just trying to survive that fight was his to win. but roy proved to himself and boxing fans that he has balls to stand up and take a beating and try to keep on winning but he just played it a bit to safe with tarver in their third fight.

          and tarver will lose to hopkins.

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          • ferocity
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            #25
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            If you think fighters should fight as long as they feel they can then just take one good look at Medrick Taylor and see the outcome of that choice(at one point the next SRL, now the man can barely speak). I want too see boxers fighting in top form, I'm not looking to see someone past their prime get knocked out,and if they fight long enough killed.
            great point!

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            • Super_Lightweight
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              #26
              Originally posted by Not Monty
              Speedy, slick boxers tend to go South pretty quickly. After the Johnson fight, my gut told me Roy would never be the same. Roy has clearly decided the paycheck is more important than bowing out gracefully and admitting, as a boxer, you are not and never will be the same.

              Anyone who thought Roy actually gave a **** in the third Tarver fight is a total fool. He wasnt there to fight. He wasnt there to redeem himself. He was there for the money.

              I just dont see how a boxing fan could give a damn about him anymore.
              Roy did give a ****, as evidenced by his hard training for that fight and winning of 3-4 rounds. But he got tired and then hurt, and he was somewhat afraid but he wasn't ONLY there to survive, even if that was his foremost concern.

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              • Peterp
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                #27
                Yeah Attribute based boxers like RJJ, Prince Naseem etc, as soon as they lose their speed and instinct, they drop very rapidly.

                The guys who box using regular fundamentals (keeping hands up etc) can go longer after their physical peak

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                • AllEyesOpen
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                  #28
                  Man there was a time that RJJ had the speed to fight safe, get in there land punches, and out before they started to sting, but Tarver/Jones Jr 3 was a joke he was almost breakdancing in there, i was waiting for him to spin on his back or some ****. Like i said he needs to go out there and take it too'em, fight your kind of fight, but throw some ****in punches, you get hit you get hit, you get dropped so be it, but at least you go out like a true champ.

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                  • the_truth_1984
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                    #29
                    I was a huge Jones fan.I loved the Jones that ko'd opponets with his hands behind his back (Glen Kelley).The Jones that schooled a much larger man (John Ruiz).This version of Jones is not one that I want to see in the ring.His skills have diminished but not the fighting spirit that so many said he didn't have.He reached down deep like the true champion he is to beat Tarver in their first fight.I don't think that Jones came in the 3rd Tarver fight to win but just to show that he could survive and not get ko'd.Sad end for a once great champion.Tarver is not an all time great probably not even Top 20.He lost to Eric Harding who was a decent fighter but nothing great.Then was being beaten easily for 3 rounds in the rematch until his power turned things around.He refused to give Glen Johnson the rubbermatch that he deserved.How can anyone take him seriously as an all time great lhw when he talks about fighting Mike Tyson.For christs sakes leave Tyson alone he's shot and has no desire but of course that's how Tarver has made a name for himself.Beating a shot Jones with a blind punch and he even talks about a fourth fight with Jones.Fight a good, prime lhw or how about a crusierweight.Why not fight Bell or Braithewaite.Wait I have the perfect fight for him.Virgil Hill he's 42 that is about the age that he likes them to be.Well better not fight Hill he still has something left in the tank give him a couple of more years than fight him.

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                      Man there was a time that RJJ had the speed to fight safe, get in there land punches, and out before they started to sting, but Tarver/Jones Jr 3 was a joke he was almost breakdancing in there, i was waiting for him to spin on his back or some ****. Like i said he needs to go out there and take it too'em, fight your kind of fight, but throw some ****in punches, you get hit you get hit, you get dropped so be it, but at least you go out like a true champ.
                      one thing Roy will never do is go out like a true champ

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