Kell Brook: Just give up the belt!

[M Bison]

why are you telling me what Brook is going thru? Just call him a duck like you have in other situations without the long winded explanation/justification.

That you are justifying this makes you the same thing you criticized so harshly, a hypocrite.

Spence wants all the belts at 147. In the past, you have said this is a suitable reason for not going up. Don't change all of the sudden.

I have criticized GGG for winning the titles in the boardroom and not in the ring, not for fighting for vacant belts.

The bottom line is you are one of the posters that is quick to use the word duck, especially when an American champion is making a non American wait for a fight. so do the same thing when the American fighter is the one being avoided or made to wait.

No excuses. No explanations. No fake "ggg gets discriminated against" crap to justify it.

So wait me saying its okay for Spence to fight for a vacated title makes me a hypocrite, tell me one situation where I called a guy who was struggling to make 160lbs who refused to fight Golovkin a duck?

You really are reaching big time

Yes he does. Red Cyclone uses the fake "blacks hate GGG and other whites" to deflect from his anti American bias. He has long been one of the people who calls Americans, but especially black champions, ducks when fights don't get made.

When its the other guy, then suddenly asks that we take all these things into consideration.

Deep down he knows that Brook/Spence is a close fight that the American has a good chance of winning. Whenever the American/black champion will likley win, we get this BS. If he thinks the American will lose, he goes right to ducking.

That moment he forgets that I root for both Spence and Porter but conveniently ignores it, its because I dislike the boring ones you like that makes you think I hate every black fighter, gotta laugh at the "fake "blacks hate GGG and other whites" to deflect from his anti American bias"
When its very real.

[NaijaD]

Yes he does. Red Cyclone uses the fake "blacks hate GGG and other whites" to deflect from his anti American bias. He has long been one of the people who calls Americans, but especially black champions, ducks when fights don't get made.

When its the other guy, then suddenly asks that we take all these things into consideration.

Deep down he knows that Brook/Spence is a close fight that the American has a good chance of winning. Whenever the American/black champion will likley win, we get this BS. If he thinks the American will lose, he goes right to ducking.

******ed Cyclone went from saying Brook is a bum that clinched his way to a disputed decision against Porter and would get knocked out by Vargas to saying he's Golovkin's best opponent and a tough fight for him. These dudes literally adopted Brook overnight once he came a GGG victim.

I've always liked Brook and still do but I knew taking that GGG fight would cause problems if he tried to return to 147 afterwards because he wouldn't want to vacate his belt (a big part of his marketability and negotiating power especially if he's dealing with Khan) and Spence would be his first fight back which is a dangerous and difficult fight to take coming off the Golovkin loss.

[Madison Boxing]

the spence hype is laughable on here lol. people talk about him likes hes 100 percent proven and thats its a matter of time before he cleans up at welterweight. Steady on fellas...

[Madison Boxing]

******ed Cyclone went from saying Brook is a bum that clinched his way to a disputed decision against Porter and would get knocked out by Vargas to saying he's Golovkin's best opponent and a tough fight for him. These dudes literally adopted Brook overnight once he came a GGG victim.

I've always liked Brook and still do but I knew taking that GGG fight would cause problems if he tried to return to 147 afterwards because he wouldn't want to vacate his belt (a big part of his marketability and negotiating power especially if he's dealing with Khan) and Spence would be his first fight back which is a dangerous and difficult fight to take coming off the Golovkin loss.

who are you trying to kid

[The Big Dunn]

So wait me saying its okay for Spence to fight for a vacated title makes me a hypocrite, tell me one situation where I called a guy who was struggling to make 160lbs who refused to fight Golovkin a duck?

You really are reaching big time

That moment he forgets that I root for both Spence and Porter but conveniently ignores it, its because I dislike the boring ones you like that makes you think I hate every black fighter, gotta laugh at the "fake "blacks hate GGG and other whites" to deflect from his anti American bias"
When its very real.

What makes you a hypocrite is you are not calling Brook a duck as you have American fighters in similar situations. I made that very clear. Stop trying to pivot to some made up comment or pretend that "struggling with weight" somehow makes this situation different.

Brook doesn't appear to be struggling with weight. he is deciding whether to fight Khan at 147 or move up. It appears he wants no part of Spence.

Where did I say you hated black fighters? I said very clearly you "have long been one of the people who calls Americans, but especially black champions, ducks when fights don't get made."

I stand by that statement, regardless of whether you root for Spence or Porter.

[The Big Dunn]

the spence hype is laughable on here lol. people talk about him likes hes 100 percent proven and thats its a matter of time before he cleans up at welterweight. Steady on fellas...

No one is doing that at all. Most people are simply pointing out that Brook seems more than willing to fight Khan at 147 but not Spence.

This is similar to you and others pointing out when Canelo signed to fight Chavez at 164.5 but he keeps telling GGG he isn't a MW.

[OnePunch]

Yeah he doesn't realise he's doing the same exact thing.... I've noticed Golovkin fans look after his victims.

This situation definitely has a lot of posters flip flopping. A lot of guys that ridicule GGG for winning vacant belts are going to change their tune if Spence does the same thing. Also posters that pleaded for Canelo not to delay fighting his mandatory are pushing for Brook to fight Khan and/or leave Spence waiting in the cold.

A lot of guys on here are just disgraceful cheerleaders.

They already do that. Thurman was elevated from Interim champ to full champ just like GGG but I dont see thread after thread after thread whining about how Keith didnt "win" the belt........

[The Big Dunn]

******ed Cyclone went from saying Brook is a bum that clinched his way to a disputed decision against Porter and would get knocked out by Vargas to saying he's Golovkin's best opponent and a tough fight for him. These dudes literally adopted Brook overnight once he came a GGG victim.

I've always liked Brook and still do but I knew taking that GGG fight would cause problems if he tried to return to 147 afterwards because he wouldn't want to vacate his belt (a big part of his marketability and negotiating power especially if he's dealing with Khan) and Spence would be his first fight back which is a dangerous and difficult fight to take coming off the Golovkin loss.

Brook IMO took the big money to get KTFO at 160 knowing a loss wouldn't cost him his belt. I get that.

Now he wants the Khan fight, ok I get that as well. In the meantime the guy who was in the most watched fight on TV last year won the eliminator to become the #1 contender for his belt.

f Brook doesn't fight him, Red Cyclone should use the same term he would if Floyd, Ward or some others were "struggling to make weight" and hadn't signed to fight Spence.

[The Big Dunn]

They already do that. Thurman was elevated from Interim champ to full champ just like GGG but I dont see thread after thread after thread whining about how Keith didnt "win" the belt........

Maybe thats because you don't see thread after thread or posts after posts made by Thurman fans over the accomplishment.

[NaijaD]

who are you trying to kid

I'm not even trying to entertain any ******ed fan boys right now but I'll humour you.

When Canelo delayed fighting GGG I called it BS and said he was most likely going to skip Golovkin because Khan was not good prep for fighting Golovkin. He eventually dropped the belt and I slated him for abit but at least Golovkin would get his belt. I've never criticised Golovkin for winning vacant belts.

Now a similar situation arises with Brook, Spence is his mandatory and trying to build his career. The kid clearly has talent and is desperate to make his name, I want him to fight Brook but if Brook thinks it's not worth his time then let Spence fight for the vacant belt. Why would anyone who isn't a cheerleader think it's okay for Spence to wait for Brook to negotiate with Khan while holding the belt? ..... The IBF will not sanction a Khan fight so what's the point??

If being consistent means I don't like Brook in your eyes then that's fine by me but.....
Serious question though why are you Golovkin extremists such pha99ots??

Your hero went through the same thing but suddenly here you are supporting this BS. You have no integrity whatsoever.