Comments Thread For: James DeGale: Badou Jack Busted My Ear Drum, I Lost My Teeth!

[SteveM]

degale got bashed up at times but on a round by round basis a score is fair. Won the first few rounds, and nicked a couple of others later on. So a draw is fair. Jack won his rounds more clearly but boxing is scored on round by round, people dont seem to understand that.

Exactly!! This is a sport not a street fight.
Bruises
Missing teeth
cuts
busted noses .... they all show who was winning the 'fight' but not necessarily the contest.

DG was nicking rounds like 10 and 11 on my scorecard. DG tends to slap quite a bit. But in the rounds DG nicked there was not much volume coming back from Jack.

If there was equal output in every round then Jack would probably have won 11 rounds because he usually showed more effective aggression.

[SteveM]

Two good fighters, but either 168 is the weakest division in boxing, or these guys are not #1 and #2. I think Gilberto Ramirez is the best guy at 168. Would like to see Jack vs Ramirez... I think Jack clearly won this fight. He's a much better fighter since he started working with Memo lol... much faster and stronger, and threw almost 800 punches tonight despite getting knocked down early, despite Degale's holding, despite apparently struggling to make weight. In other words, he's got some su****ious new athletic gifts, it seems.

If Degale isn't using PEDs, it's sad to say but he is putting himself in danger by not using PEDs, if he's not, because there are su****ions that his last two opponents may be using them, and that may be the only reason they were able to be stronger than him, and never get hurt by his shots, and not gas like Degale still always does after every combination.

I mean that's Degale's big weakness. He needs to take breaks after every combination. And his power isn't doing much against these guys, but again maybe that's because they use ****, who knows. Gilberto Ramirez would definitely beat Degale, and probably Jack.

As far as I'm aware you're the first one to mention ped use. Although who knows if others are thinking that. Now you point it out it does look a little su****ious but I prefer to go with the results of testing otherwise, if it's not an even playing field, we are not watching sport but just a spectacle.
I do agree that DeGale's punches had little effect on Jack. Jack does look huge and yes, on reflection, he was better in this fight than against Groves.
I disagree about Zurdo. He is unproven still. Although he is just too damn long for Golovkin IMO.

[SteveM]

Great fight, but DeGale just isn't anywhere near as good A he thinks he is.

Eubank Jr will best him.

Based on what??

[bboy80]

the ref blew it. Degale deliberately spit out the mouthpiece three times trying to get a breather. .but still had Jack winning due to that inside work. judges don't show love for body punching. but Degale utilized that humongous ring real good to avoid getting stopped.

The inside of his mouth was all cut up, plus he lost most of his front teeth. My guess is that it was accidental due to the injuries rather that a straight forward spit out.

[gmc_rfc_06]

The inside of his mouth was all cut up, plus he lost most of his front teeth. My guess is that it was accidental due to the injuries rather that a straight forward spit out.

Based off DeGale tiring badly halfway through every fight and having little power, but mostly because he's not that good.

People will see it as a surprise initially, but Eubank Jr will best him comfortably.

[Guest]

Exactly!! This is a sport not a street fight.
Bruises
Missing teeth
cuts
busted noses .... they all show who was winning the 'fight' but not necessarily the contest.

DG was nicking rounds like 10 and 11 on my scorecard. DG tends to slap quite a bit. But in the rounds DG nicked there was not much volume coming back from Jack.

If there was equal output in every round then Jack would probably have won 11 rounds because he usually showed more effective aggression.

Good posts.

It's days like these when I remember why I don't bother posting anymore, or reading this place. If you want a rational conversation, said by adults, then here is not the place for it.

It was a close one... I gave DeGale rounds 1,2,9,10,11 (ISTR) and there were some close ones between rounds 3-7 (ISTR) so six rounds was very achievable. Whether Jack's KD was harder and more substantial than DeGale's (which it obviously was) is immaterial on the scorecards, something Jack himself didn't seem to realise.

All I seem to read about is how DeGale's punches were landing on gloves (a lot were) and shouldn't have been scored. But there's little talk of how Jack had a low output for a lot of rounds.

Close fight, on a round by round basis.

[JamMG]

Lol degale doesnt know what clinch means i think degale has stamina issues everytime he goes 12 rds he switches off midfight

[daggum]

Lol degale doesnt know what clinch means i think degale has stamina issues everytime he goes 12 rds he switches off midfight

maybe he knows its illegal unlike most other fighters and refs.

[ShoulderRoll]

Good posts.

It's days like these when I remember why I don't bother posting anymore, or reading this place. If you want a rational conversation, said by adults, then here is not the place for it.

It was a close one... I gave DeGale rounds 1,2,9,10,11 (ISTR) and there were some close ones between rounds 3-7 (ISTR) so six rounds was very achievable. Whether Jack's KD was harder and more substantial than DeGale's (which it obviously was) is immaterial on the scorecards, something Jack himself didn't seem to realise.

All I seem to read about is how DeGale's punches were landing on gloves (a lot were) and shouldn't have been scored. But there's little talk of how Jack had a low output for a lot of rounds.

Close fight, on a round by round basis.

If one guy has a low output and the other one has a high output but is mostly hitting gloves...I don't think the second guy automatically wins the round.

You have to consider things like effective aggression and defense in the scoring.

Can't really question Badou Jack's effectiveness in a lot of the rounds. He punished Degale and even knocked out some teeth! I know that might not be a big deal to Brits, where everyone is either missing some teeth already or they have green ones. But I thought it was enough for the Swede to edge a close one.

[Tom Cruise]

Based off DeGale tiring badly halfway through every fight and having little power, but mostly because he's not that good.

People will see it as a surprise initially, but Eubank Jr will best him comfortably.

Doent Eubank need to prove himself as a top MW before we start saying he would beat a top SMW?