Jack Dempsey vs Today's Heavyweights

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  • NYG
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    #521
    Originally posted by robertzimmerman
    Boxing has evolved, but it doesn't progress in the same way that other sports do.

    Great fighters are great fighters.

    You could take the greatest fighters of all time and you could drop them into any era. They would all have been successful.

    You have said that any of today's top fighters would have destroyed any fighter from Dempsey's era. But that statement is completely ignorant.

    The best fighters of Dempsey's era were:

    Gene Tunney
    Benny Leonard
    Jimmy Wilde
    Harry Greb

    I've done a lot of research over the years, and they were great fighters.

    There's no evidence to support the theory that it would be a given that they would be destroyed today.
    You think you can drop Ali in the ring against Wilder and he can rope a dope Wilder? He would get his head knocked off

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      #522
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      This has got to be up there with worst post of the month by far..WOW.......
      Cool. Youre the ****ing idiot ****sucker that has no clue about the sport

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        #523
        Originally posted by NYG
        Cool. Youre the ****ing idiot ****sucker that has no clue about the sport
        yes bc a knowledgeable person states the likes of Mike tyson wont land on Wilder and joshua doesnt look like a boxer yet hes the most refined guy weve seen over 240 pounds in quite some time? listen kid iim doing a thread of most outlandish posts soon...i'll be sure to include yours so dont say i didnt do anything for you.
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-30-2017, 05:26 PM.

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          #524
          Originally posted by NYG
          Joshua just doesnt look like a boxer. He looks clumsy in the ring and i dont think he is very good. My opinion

          And back then, HWs were smaller. You think Frazier and M Tyson will run through guys like Wilder and Fury? I honestly dont even think they would land a punch
          Yet Tyson destroyed better fighters than Wilder. Interesting.

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            #525
            Originally posted by NYG
            You think you can drop Ali in the ring against Wilder and he can rope a dope Wilder? He would get his head knocked off
            Who said that he would do the rope a dope? Are you really telling me that an unskilled Bum like Wilder would destroy a top 3 p4p HW in Ali? Man this board is going overboard.

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              #526
              Originally posted by Sheldon312
              Who said that he would do the rope a dope? Are you really telling me that an unskilled Bum like Wilder would destroy a top 3 p4p HW in Ali? Man this board is going overboard.
              Ali is so overrated its not funny. Get the **** out of my face

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                #527
                Originally posted by NYG
                Joshua just doesnt look like a boxer. He looks clumsy in the ring and i dont think he is very good. My opinion

                And back then, HWs were smaller. You think Frazier and M Tyson will run through guys like Wilder and Fury? I honestly dont even think they would land a punch
                I'm not as high on Joshua as some, but it's Wilder who's uncoordinated/off balance. He looks crude at times.

                Mike Tyson at his peak would have destroyed Wilder. Wilder couldn't have timed Mike coming in low with his bobbing and weaving style. Mike would have gotten inside pretty easily and ripped him to the body. Wilder's size advantage would actually have ended up being a disadvantage in a fight against a guy like Mike.

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                  #528
                  Originally posted by NYG
                  Ali is so overrated its not funny. Get the **** out of my face
                  Still, how would the more skilled fighter lose to a fundamentally awful fighter? Hearns was bigger than Leonard, yet Leonard stopped Hearns.

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                    #529
                    Originally posted by NYG
                    You think you can drop Ali in the ring against Wilder and he can rope a dope Wilder? He would get his head knocked off
                    Ali employed that strategy due to the following factors:

                    His age

                    Foreman's agressiveness

                    The Zaire heat


                    Ali at his best would never have employed those tactics.


                    Wilder would have gotten frustrated and would have been windmilling at fresh air all night.

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                      #530
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312
                      Still, how would the more skilled fighter lose to a fundamentally awful fighter? Hearns was bigger than Leonard, yet Leonard stopped Hearns.
                      MWs are different than HWs ****head

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