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Originally posted by Sheldon312 View PostWhere would he rank?
Unified Champion...that's where he'd rank
Who's gonna' stop him?
Dempsey was a Bob and Weave fighter.
The bob and weave style is the GIANT KILLER
It's gone from today's scene...that's why giants lumber across the heavyweight landscape.
Today's heavyweights have ZERO defense for that style..
They ALL pull straight back with their hands down..can't do that in front of a Bob and Weaver.
Look at Joshua
26 years old with the reaction time of a stone monument.
That's a 6'6 manslaughter case.
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Originally posted by WTF Huck!;17655719[B]Except Tyson was better than Dempsey in almost every single way.
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I doubt Dempsey even dominates LHW these days.
Mike was better at finding a way out of a fight.
That's about it.
Jack Dempsey would beat the ever-living **** outta' Mike Tyson.
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Originally posted by Sheldon312 View PostWouldn't you agree that Wilder just has a physical advantage?
Wilder's height isn't an advantage ...it's a liability.
Because of....
THE
BOB
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WEAVE
STYLE
Today's heavyweights haven't seen it...and they don't have the tools or stamina to adjust to it.
The 6'6 guys of today are here,because the bob and weave style is gone.
Dempsey would be like an invasive species sending these dinosaurs into extinction.
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Originally posted by Kigali View PostIn Dempsey's case
Wilder's height isn't an advantage ...it's a liability.
Because of....
THE
BOB
AND
WEAVE
STYLE
Today's heavyweights haven't seen it...and they don't have the tools or stamina to adjust to it.
The 6'6 guys of today are here,because the bob and weave style is gone.
Dempsey would be like an invasive species sending these dinosaurs into extinction.
Dempsey vs Firpo. Look how outdated their styles are. Crude & wild oldies just being overrated for histories sake. Watch them with your own eyes then go & watch Wlad vs AJ. You want to talk about skill?. Dempseys fight makes Wlad & AJ look like the best HW's of all time. If you critique Wlad for holding then you have to do the same to Dempsey x2. Ugly style.Ascended likes this.
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There isn't a single LHW that could compete with today's heavies. There weren't in Frazier's day either.
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Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame View Post7 inch reach advantage & physical presence negates bob & weave. Dempsey would have a punchers chance but that's about it. I bet you haven't even watched Dempsey.
Dempsey vs Firpo. Look how outdated their styles are. Crude & wild oldies just being overrated for histories sake. Watch them with your own eyes then go & watch Wlad vs AJ. You want to talk about skill?. Dempseys fight makes Wlad & AJ look like the best HW's of all time. If you critique Wlad for holding then you have to do the same to Dempsey x2. Ugly style.
Dempsey vs Firpo was supposed to be a brawl. That's the most biased fight against Dempsey you can bring up if you are trying to give people a proper picture of his style.
How about the first minute where he pretty much shut out Willard's offense? It wasn't 1 minute of him circling and landing a lucky punch, it was a minute of him trying and failing to set up and attack until he actually caught Willard with the perfect counter. SKILL.
Firpo was one of the toughest fighters of the 20s and Dempsey knocked him down with one or two uppercuts on the inside.
You clearly have no idea about Boxing. Its called inside fighting and if Wlad or any heavyweight today got in the ring with a talented heavyweight like Dempsey who was probably the best body puncher/inside fighter at heavyweight then they would be in for a RUDE awakening. Literally. Wlad would probably die from Dempsey's body punches. Wlad was graced with not ever having to fight someone who knows how to fight on the inside.
No heavyweight has even been decent on the inside since probably Bowe and before that maybe a couple of guys in the 70s.
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Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View PostNo it doesn't. It does the opposite. It's a FACT that Dempsey had a harder time with guys under 200 lbs than he did with guys OVER 200 lbs.
Dempsey vs Firpo was supposed to be a brawl. That's the most biased fight against Dempsey you can bring up if you are trying to give people a proper picture of his style.
How about the first minute where he pretty much shut out Willard's offense? It wasn't 1 minute of him circling and landing a lucky punch, it was a minute of him trying and failing to set up and attack until he actually caught Willard with the perfect counter. SKILL.
Firpo was one of the toughest fighters of the 20s and Dempsey knocked him down with one or two uppercuts on the inside.
You clearly have no idea about Boxing. Its called inside fighting and if Wlad or any heavyweight today got in the ring with a talented heavyweight like Dempsey who was probably the best body puncher/inside fighter at heavyweight then they would be in for a RUDE awakening. Literally. Wlad would probably die from Dempsey's body punches. Wlad was graced with not ever having to fight someone who knows how to fight on the inside.
No heavyweight has even been decent on the inside since probably Bowe and before that maybe a couple of guys in the 70s.
Dempsey would stop Wlad from body punches just lol. I can't even entertain this.Ascended likes this.
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