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  • aboutfkntime
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    #41
    Originally posted by HandsofIron
    He's comparable to Robert Guerrero, imo. Trinidad's on another level.

    nope

    only the casuals gave Guerrero a chance

    Corrales was a killer, and he was favored to beat Mayweather

    I remember that fight well, back then Corrales was undefeated and he was terrorizing 130

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    • HandsofIron
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      #42
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      nope

      only the casuals gave Guerrero a chance

      Corrales was a killer, and he was favored to beat Mayweather

      I remember that fight well, back then Corrales was undefeated and he was terrorizing 130
      But Tito Trinidad he is not, is my point.

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      • Edward90
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        #43
        Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
        Floyd only did it to hype himself, then controlled when he could be tested. It was a farce.



        Golovkin made sacrifices when he came out. He offered to fight for his first title shot for basically free.

        But at this point he is 35 and gas fought his way into the level he is.

        He didn't turn pro until he was Spence ages. He didn't gave the opportunity Spence does.

        It's a false equivalence.
        I'm not sure how anything you said refutes how the two can be perceived differently. GGG has been a pro for around 9-10 years, Spence for only 4 and has just hopped on the scene. He is in a more competitive and talented division and seems willing to make the fights. I wasn't equating them. I was making an analogy. One provides excitement because he is new. The other is trying to match expectations that have been heaped upon him. It's not surprising that they are viewed in a different light, which is what I was saying. They aren't equal and shouldn't be viewed as such.

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        • Bjl12
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          #44
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
          Golovkin made sacrifices when he came out. He offered to fight for his first title shot for basically free.
          What sacrifices? GGG just drug an average WW up 13 pounds and won't concede a single pound to Canelo whose entire career has been at 152-155. Similarly he calls out bigger fights but demands they come down in weight to meet him.

          GGG is not very different from Cotto. A diva who hides behind his coaching and training staff.

          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          Pac went from looking "faded..... been in too many wars"~ Manny Steward, against Marquez II..... to looking either "revitalized" or "rejuvenated"~ Manny Steward (can't remember the exact word that Steward used, but the video is readily available on youtube) against Diaz 3 months later..... Pac gained 15lbs of muscle in 9 months while skipping through 3 divisions, and he DOUBLED his punch output

          ..... oh, and then he killed a super-fight by publicly refusing random blood tests
          Anyone who is unbiased can say that it is extremely likely there was some sort of PED use going on. For the first 1-2 years Pac's team kept saying they were afraid of needles and giving blood weakens them - even though Floyd would also be giving blood, but it wouldn't weaken him?

          And then they wanted a random blood test cutoff date? That's like being on probation, but telling your P.O. I can't be drug tested after New Years for at least 3 weeks.

          This is like elementary school logic. Again if you're unbiased you know there was some kind of cheating going on. No direct proof, but the proof is in the pudding

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          • Boxing Logic
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            #45
            Originally posted by Red-Cyclone
            Because making two big fights back to back or in the same year is near impossible, boxing doesn't work like we want it to.
            But how is it impossible? I think it's only impossible because many modern fighters don't want that work. Otherwise why wouldn't promoters want two huge paydays in a year rather than just one?

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