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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostI said no such thing
beating Dawson at 168 WAS a good win, that is not in question..... but beating him at 175 would have been a VERY good/superb win
Dawson is not Ward's best win, he would be lucky to make Ward's top 5, simply because that fight was at 168..... so I can't figure out why you are fixated on that fight?..... especially considering the fact that Ward just moved to 175 specifically to fight Kovalev
..... and YES, Ward specifically stated on numerous occasions BEFORE moving to 175 that he was moving up for Kovalev
Dawson called out Ward, AT 168..... Golovkin demanded 164, knowing that it would either kill the fight or compromise Ward, who had just fought at 172 on his way back down to SMW
you are firing blanks
I said no such thing, you twat
I said that Golovkin avoided Ward because it was highly unlikely that he could beat him.
that is a horrible risk/reward fight for Golovkin, and a horrible style match-up
grow up
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Originally posted by bluepete View PostYou don't know anything about what anyone asked for in negotiations, you just take the side against the guy you don't like. Dawson wasnt a good win at 168,any fool could see he was dead at the weight. You say Dawson called for 168,Dawsom says he accepted it but wanted the fight at a catchweight. I believe Dawson, why wouldn't he ask for a higher weight first? You believe Froch on 166,despite him only saying it now. You go on about 154 to 168, but Andre saying anyone at 175 and then rejecting Adonis doesn't seem to matter. I get it. Everyone gets it. You don't like Golovkin.
FACT: Dawson was a good win, even at 168
good luck crying about Dawson, when lil-G's best win is Brook
Originally posted by bluepete View PostAndre didn't move up for Kovalev. All of his interviews state he moved up when his body was ready. He is a lightheavyweight. When he wasn't, he didn't want Dawson at the weight or Adonis. I don't know how much more plain it needs to be for you. Your one of these who call names and then tell people to grow up. Your laughable, biased. Golovkin fight at middle because he is a middle. Ward fights are lightheavy because he is one. When he was a supermiddle, he didn't fight anyone at 175.Simple as that.
nah, you are full-of-**** kid.....
when lil-G refused to fight Andre Ward for the SECOND time in 2015, Ward moved on to BIGGER and BETTER things..... he signed a deal with HBO to move up to 175 and fight Kovalev.....
..... that fact was extremely well-documented at the time, so I guess you must be new to boxing
thanks for your participation
keep trying
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About****time still has mental issues i see , still going into every GGG thread (this one about GGG vs Jacobs) and talking about Ward , jesus f***k christ would you let it go ? everyone moved on but you , what is the big obsession you have with the guy , if you are on the GGG camp you have your reasons for why Ward fight didnt happen and you are on Ward camp you have yours, there is no denying that Ward went up to LHW and took on the best fighter there (and lost a very close fight in my meaningless opinion) , i give him tons of credit for doing that , and yes GGG hadn't taken such a risk in his career where he goes into a 50/50 fight , but man you are really over the top crazy about him.......
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostFACT: Dawson was a good win, even at 168
good luck crying about Dawson, when lil-G's best win is Brook
nah, you are full-of-**** kid.....
when lil-G refused to fight Andre Ward for the SECOND time in 2015, Ward moved on to BIGGER and BETTER things..... he signed a deal with HBO to move up to 175 and fight Kovalev.....
..... that fact was extremely well-documented at the time, so I guess you must be new to boxing
thanks for your participation
keep trying
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Originally posted by bluzi View PostAbout****time still has mental issues i see , still going into every GGG thread (this one about GGG vs Jacobs) and talking about Ward , jesus f***k christ would you let it go ? everyone moved on but you , what is the big obsession you have with the guy , if you are on the GGG camp you have your reasons for why Ward fight didnt happen and you are on Ward camp you have yours, there is no denying that Ward went up to LHW and took on the best fighter there (and lost a very close fight in my meaningless opinion) , i give him tons of credit for doing that, and yes GGG hadn't taken such a risk in his career where he goes into a 50/50 fight , but man you are really over the top crazy about him.......
good for you
now STFU while I remind that alt to do the same
or..... you could tell him ?
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Originally posted by bluepete View PostYour obviously oblivious to what I'm saying about your bias. Try this. Ward outgrew his division. As in couldn't make supermiddle anymore. So he didn't go up a weight to fight anyone. He just grew into a new division. Your asking Golovkin to go up a weight, to a weight he doesn't belong at. Different thing. You believe Frochs word on 166 but not Dawson on 170.You say GGG should be vilified for the 154 168 thing, but Ward ducking Stevenson after stating anyone at 168 175 gets a pass. Now he's doing what Ward just did, taking on the best puncher and next best fighter at his weight. Unlike Ward, he won't win it controversially, in a fight where according to Froch who never lies, he used negative and illegal tactics. Golovkin will knock Jacobs out. I guess you think I'm new to boxing because you don't know who Danny Williams and Henry Akinwande, who were my gymates at one point are. I know what it's like in there, which is why myself, and every fighter I've met in the gym admire GGG for his style and power. And willingness to trade. But each to there own.
Nah, that is bull****..... you completely made that up LMAO
Ward offered to fight Golovkin TWICE in 2015..... when his SECOND offer to fight Golovkin at 168 was rejected in "36 minutes flat" , Ward moved on to BIGGER and BETTER things.....
Roc Nation: GGG's Team Turned Down Ward in 36 Minutes.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-natio...minutes--96761
it was clearly obvious that lil'G didn't want none, so Ward signed a deal with HBO to move up to 175 and fight Kovalev.....
"Super middleweight world champion Andre Ward, who has cleaned out the 168-pound division, is moving on to the next stage of his career at light heavyweight.
Ward (28-0, 15 KOs), 31, of Oakland, California, will move up in weight and fight at 175 pounds for the first time in the Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez co-feature on Nov. 21 (HBO PPV) at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Jay Z's Roc Nation Sports, Ward's promoter, announced on Thursday night.
The fight will be the first of an exclusive three-fight contract that Ward has signed with HBO. It will also include a fight in the spring of 2016, followed by a fall pay-per-view showdown with three-belt light heavyweight world titleholder Sergey Kovalev (28-0-1, 25 KOs), who is also under contract to HBO. Kovalev and his promoter, Main Events, have also agreed to terms.".....
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...sergey-kovalev
MY LINKS > YOUR BULL****
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostNah, that is bull****..... you completely made that up LMAO
Ward offered to fight Golovkin TWICE in 2015..... when his SECOND offer to fight Golovkin at 168 was rejected in "36 minutes flat" , Ward moved on to BIGGER and BETTER things.....
Roc Nation: GGG's Team Turned Down Ward in 36 Minutes.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-natio...minutes--96761
it was clearly obvious that lil'G didn't want none, so Ward signed a deal with HBO to move up to 175 and fight Kovalev.....
"Super middleweight world champion Andre Ward, who has cleaned out the 168-pound division, is moving on to the next stage of his career at light heavyweight.
Ward (28-0, 15 KOs), 31, of Oakland, California, will move up in weight and fight at 175 pounds for the first time in the Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez co-feature on Nov. 21 (HBO PPV) at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Jay Z's Roc Nation Sports, Ward's promoter, announced on Thursday night.
The fight will be the first of an exclusive three-fight contract that Ward has signed with HBO. It will also include a fight in the spring of 2016, followed by a fall pay-per-view showdown with three-belt light heavyweight world titleholder Sergey Kovalev (28-0-1, 25 KOs), who is also under contract to HBO. Kovalev and his promoter, Main Events, have also agreed to terms.".....
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...sergey-kovalev
MY LINKS > YOUR BULL****
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Originally posted by bluepete View PostGive me a break. You just can't see it can you. Ward said again and again he'd only go to lightheavy when his body was ready. That's why after telling espn he was ready for anyone at 175 he turned down Adonis who challenged him after he won Dawsons title. The fact he also didn't want Dawsons title, an extra title, even at a catchweight further proves he didn't want to fight at a weight he didn't have to. Before he fought Kovalev, he fought as a lightheavyweight three times. He didn't just jump up to another weight like you want GGG to. He belongs in that division, even stating that hes a bit tight there. I guess you think he just decided to quit supermiddle and add 7lb of lean muscle artificially to fight Kovalev. It don't work like that. The growth was natural and irreversible. If Golovkin had gone up, the weight disadvantage would've been pronounced, hence why he may have asked for a catchweight. When Ward was a supermiddle, he had a large natural disadvantage against Dawson. Hence why he didn't consider jumping up for another title,evem though he SAID he could beat anyone at 175.Fools like you think these guys can artificially gain all that lean weight. Not naturally at Wards age you can. I've boxed, I know how weight works.Your an Internet warrior, who thinks he's a Peckham boy "chat shht get ******". I live there, go to a gym there with actual fighters. Come down some time and explain your theories to real men, who don't hate on real fighters and chat **** from the safety of a screen you little knob head.
nah, that's bull****
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I always find these comments ******. The media in general gives Golovkin plenty of credit already. The people who hate him will keep moving the goalposts and will never give him any credit.
It's #1 vs #2 in the division. That's all that matters.
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