Comments Thread For: Roach: Crawford Was Only Pacquiao Opponent Arum Mentioned

[fats]

Let's put this in context:

March 2010, Pacquiao fights Joshua Clottey, who is coming off a loss to Miguel Cotto. May 2010, Mayweather fights Shane Mosely, who is coming off a KO victory over Antonio Margarito. November 2010, Pacquiao fights Antonio Margarito at a CW of 150. May 2011, Pacquiao fights Shane Mosely, whose coming off of a loss to Mayweather, and a draw with Sergio Mora. September 2011, Mayweather defeats Victor Ortiz for the WBC Welterweight title. June 2012, Pacquiao fights Timothy Bradley. May 2012, Mayweather beats Cotto for the WBA Super Welterweight title. December 2012, Pacquiao is nearly murdered by Juan Manuel Marquez. May 2013, Mayweather beats Guererro for the vacant Ring Welterweight title. Novemeber 2013, Pacquiao faces Brandon Rios, who is coming off a loss to Mike Alvarado at 140. September 2013, Mayweather beats Canelo Alvarez for the WBC Super Welterweight title! April 2014, Pacquiao faces Bradley again! May 2014, Mayweather beats Marcos Maidana, who is coming off a KO victory over Adrien Broner. November 2014, Pacquiao fights Chris Algieri , who is coming off a SD with Ruslan Provodnikov at 140. I think i'll just stop there!

Mike drop!! Nice.

[hitking]

I'm not saying that "these fights" are harder than Floyd. You already called Floyd out when he didn't fight Manny vice versa so that crap is gone. Yet you keep on saying "Easy" fights with fighters like Bradley and Margarito.

And I'm saying how can they be "Easy fights" In the last 6 years for manny when most of those years were his opponents where in the pound for pound. Is the standard for Manny really that high that a fighter with a caliber like Bradley would be labled as easy? You don't get it man. You call these fights "Easy" fights because they aren ot Floyd when Margarito almost killed manny in the ring that Manny had to be in the hospital for 3 days paralyzed.

With Bradley a HOF in his prime when Manny fought him. Floyd won't even risk that much.

For a welterweight, Canelo is a much tougher assignment than Bradley.

As for Margarito. On Jan 24, 2009, Margarito fought Shane Mosley. Floyd fought the winner of that fight. Manny fought the loser. I don't see how Manny gets more props for fighting Margarito than Floyd does fighting Shane.

Floyd even fought the welterweight version of JMM before Pac did. So I don't understand where your "Manny took on more risks" logic is coming from. Is it because Floyd won those contests quite a bit easier than Manny won his? Hence giving the impression that he was taking the tougher fights?

[Kigali]

For a welterweight, Canelo is a much tougher assignment than Bradley.

As for Margarito. On Jan 24, 2009, Margarito fought Shane Mosley. Floyd fought the winner of that fight. Manny fought the loser. I don't see how Manny gets more props for fighting Margarito than Floyd does fighting Shane.

Floyd even fought the welterweight version of JMM before Pac did. So I don't understand where your "Manny took on more risks" logic is coming from. Is it because Floyd won those contests quite a bit easier than Manny won his? Hence giving the impression that he was taking the tougher fights?

Ouch.....that's gotta' hurt.

[Kigali]

People killing a 38 year old Manny for not taking this fight aren't boxing fans.

Ya'll killed Floyd for fighting Berto( a former champ and way better than Horn) so why not?

[hitking]

People killing a 38 year old Manny for not taking this fight aren't boxing fans.

Manny is in a really weird space in his career right now. The running commentary is that Manny is past it. And its his diehards and the diehard Floyd haters screaming it the loudest. But by all accounts, Manny ia still at the very least still a top 10 P4P fighter. And he's arguably the best welterweight in the world. Even though for some reason he's really never talked about in the pecking order lf that division. My personal opinion people wanna consider Manny "done" to take the sting outta the Floyd loss. But the reality is I wouldn't pick a single fighter in the welterweight division to beat him. And based on styles, I think he gives Crawford a lotta problems.

[Kigali]

Manny is in a really weird space in his career right now. The running commentary is that Manny is past it. And its his diehards and the diehard Floyd haters screaming it the loudest. But by all accounts, Manny ia still at the very least still a top 10 P4P fighter. And he's arguably the best welterweight in the world. Even though for some reason he's really never talked about in the pecking order lf that division. My personal opinion people wanna consider Manny "done" to take the sting outta the Floyd loss. But the reality is I wouldn't pick a single fighter in the welterweight division to beat him. And based on styles, I think he gives Crawford a lotta problems.

Based on WHAT????

He hasn't fought a single true WW.

[fats]

...I wouldn't pick a single fighter in the welterweight division to beat him. And based on styles, I think he gives Crawford a lotta problems.

I agree regarding Pac as the best out there right now...by a lot!

For sure, Floyd displayed athleticism and physical advantages compounded with ring IQ and experience to defeat greats like Manny and Canelo. Even so, defeat of both fighters was only possible because of Mayweather's over-the-top disciplined approach to training as a lifestyle IMHO. His conditioning and focus was on another level.

Others have similar size and athleticism but can't come close (I'm looking at you, Amir Kahn!). Not in the same league or solar system.

I struggle to see Crawford mustering the same results with Pac man and doubt he'd finish conscience or cognizant vs big Cinnamon.

Many use Manny's loss to FM and his age as a way of discounting him. I say underestimate him at your own risk.

My opinion.

[NotaPachugger]

Kinda like when Pac and Arum had ODLH fight 10 pounds lighter, for a big advantage.

[NotaPachugger]

It would be nice if there was some truth to your statement like an actual fight against these mentioned fighters

[jjsmyth87]

ya arum dont **** around tho when pac said 20 mil or else which for us seems realistic because of the past but lets be honest in this climate even 20 mil for pac and well say 7 for crawford just isnt going to happen they cant generate that much. arum probably thinking well if they not gonna be realitic well do bs fights instead.

i still find it amazing tho that arum still completely controls manny and manny doesnt really do anything about it or isnt able too. it makes u wonder what arum has on manny my guess was always he loaned manny money that hes still repaying

If you were manny and you were at the tail end of your career and already accomplished everything he accomplished, would you rather fight terrance crawford who is like mayweather in his prime for 20 million or fight jeff horn for 12-15 million or whatever it is and then fight a big fight in the fall. Crawford wont move up to 147 and pacquiao is obviously never leaving 147 so until crawford moves up its not happening. I think arum will probably cash out mannys last 2 fights against crawford and loma