Gennady Golovkin's criminal connections!

[Madison Boxing]

how sad is this, desperately trying to find some way to hate this guy. Bringing up rumours from 13 years ago lol. Try harder.

[january]

Smh not surprised at all!! that Korean always seemed like a snake to me

Not without reason he advertises Samsung phones)))

[Citizen Koba]

Hi, guys!

If you are interested, I posted an article, which also deals with current criminal pals of Golovkin and his team. Visit blog daniyar info

Its title: "Gangster-Sponsored Athletes".

I'd say it's interesting but all you actually do is mention some instances of corruption in a sport that's awash with them. It's generally accepted that corruption is rife in the ex-soviet countries (though whether it's more extensive or just less subtle than in the west is a legitimate question), but the connections to Golovkin are tenuous and at worst based on hearsay. Not that I'd hold his past against GGG any more than I would with any other fighter, but you don't even say anything of significance.

As a piece on corruption in Kazakhstan and it's boxing scene it holds some mild interest. As an expose of Golovkins 'criminal past' it's an utter failure. Simple fact is that probably almost every successful boxer on the planet will have had dealings at one time or another with individuals who are straight up criminals. Why not bring up Golovkins connection with Waldemar Kluch and Universum who were by all accounts a nasty bunch even as promoters go? Is that GGGs responsibility too?

[january]

I'd say it's interesting but all you actually do is mention some instances of corruption in a sport that's awash with them. It's generally accepted that corruption is rife in the ex-soviet countries (though whether it's more extensive or just less subtle than in the west is a legitimate question), but the connections to Golovkin are tenuous and at worst based on hearsay. Not that I'd hold his past against GGG any more than I would with any other fighter, but you don't even say anything of significance.

As a piece on corruption in Kazakhstan and it's boxing scene it holds some mild interest. As an expose of Golovkins 'criminal past' it's an utter failure. Simple fact is that probably almost every successful boxer on the planet will have had dealings at one time or another with individuals who are straight up criminals. Why not bring up Golovkins connection with Waldemar Kluch and Universum who were by all accounts a nasty bunch even as promoters go? Is that GGGs responsibility too?

You mention cases, already known in the West. I don't think Waldemar Kluch walks around with a pistol, threatening unruly judges. The point is that GGG now pretends to be a patriot of Kazakhstan, while he is a supporter of the Russian cause.

[A.K]

You mention cases, already known in the West. I don't think Waldemar Kluch walks around with a pistol, threatening unruly judges. The point is that GGG now pretends to be a patriot of Kazakhstan, while he is a supporter of the Russian cause.

First of all there is no difference between khazatsan and Russia it's like Saying California isn't Nevada..

Second of all most people from Ukraine, Belarus, and khazastan ARE majority Russian .

[Citizen Koba]

You mention cases, already known in the West. I don't think Waldemar Kluch walks around with a pistol, threatening unruly judges. The point is that GGG now pretends to be a patriot of Kazakhstan, while he is a supporter of the Russian cause.

What? You hypothesise that he lost an amateur fight... what? 13 years ago, deliberately, without any proof that this is the case. You then go on to speculate that the reasons for this - rather than money as would almost always be the case - are some latent Russian nationalism on Golovkin's part. You then go on to conclude that not only did Golovkin do this to support Russia over his native Kazakhstan but that he continues to hold Russian sympathies.

Not only can I see no good reason why anyone other than an extreme Kazakh patriot would give the slightest bit of a fuck, as an exercise in deductive reasoning, your argument falls about as flat on it's face as it's possible to do.

Oh yeah, and Kluch... http://www.boxingscene.com/universum...manager--65280

[january]

First of all there is no difference between khazatsan and Russia it's like Saying California isn't Nevada..

Second of all most people from Ukraine, Belarus, and khazastan ARE majority Russian .

"khazastan"?! What is that? You have meant Khazarstan as a country of Khazars, who pretend to be ***s?

[A.K]

"khazastan"?! What is that? You have meant Khazarstan as a country of Khazars, who pretend to be ***s?

Yeah you're naive as hell

[january]

What? You hypothesise that he lost an amateur fight... what? 13 years ago, deliberately, without any proof that this is the case. You then go on to speculate that the reasons for this - rather than money as would almost always be the case - are some latent Russian nationalism on Golovkin's part. You then go on to conclude that not only did Golovkin do this to support Russia over his native Kazakhstan but that he continues to hold Russian sympathies.

Not only can I see no good reason why anyone other than an extreme Kazakh patriot would give the slightest bit of a fuck, as an exercise in deductive reasoning, your argument falls about as flat on it's face as it's possible to do.

Oh yeah, and Kluch... http://www.boxingscene.com/universum...manager--65280

I have learned that there are many supporters of Russia in the West. They deprived a peaceful Ukraine of nuclear weapons in favor of Russia, etc.

If you have studied Mr. Kaliyev's criminal deeds, you would have known that he himself was nearly blown up by an explosion when he put in his candidacy in local elections. Some of his rivals were killed as well. Maybe, through his direct orders. No comparison to childish fights of Western managers)))

[Citizen Koba]

I have learned that there are many supporters of Russia in the West. They deprived a peaceful Ukraine of nuclear weapons in favor of Russia, etc.

If you have studied Mr. Kaliyev's criminal deeds, you would have known that he himself was nearly blown up by an explosion when he put in his candidacy in local elections. Some of his rivals were killed as well. Maybe, through his direct orders. No comparison to childish fights of Western managers)))

So the stakes are higher in politics than boxing. Also yes, probably rivalry resolution methods are somewhat more direct in the ex-Soviet states. Perhaps I'm missing the relevance as it pertains to GGG?