floyd mayweather jr- what more could he have done?

[New England]

fighting pacquiao in his prime was the big one.


not saying it was 100% on floyd that they ddin't fight in their primes, but you all know damn well that both sides contributed to that fight getting pushed off so they could sell mismatches and use the potential megafight as promotion.


remember when every single casual news outlet would talk about mayweather - pacquaio in the lead up to mayweather vs X and pacquiao vs Y? that was done on purpose by al haymon and bob arum, and it worked. cha ching.

[djtmal]

This. These dudes think people are just hating on Floyd. Floyd was a great fight, he could have won all of the fights against these guys in their prime, but the fact is that he chose to wait them out and take the fights when they were less risky. Also coming up there were a lot of really really good fights that he didn't fight.

He made ZERO attempts to unify and divisions until he reached 147lb.

He spent more than 3 years as champion at 130lb. Had chances to unify with Joel Casamayor, and Acelino Freitas, both of whom were absolute animals at the time and both of whom were undefeated. He didn't do it.

He just avoided risk where possible. Great for career longevity, bad for looking at his career in retrospect.

That doesnt say anything about his actual skill level, just what he was willing to risk.

Great points definitely

[soul_survivor]

Great points definitely

yep

good to see still a few reasonable people on here

[djtmal]

fighting pacquiao in his prime was the big one.


not saying it was 100% on floyd that they ddin't fight in their primes, but you all know damn well that both sides contributed to that fight getting pushed off so they could sell mismatches and use the potential megafight as promotion.


remember when every single casual news outlet would talk about mayweather - pacquaio in the lead up to mayweather vs X and pacquiao vs Y? that was done on purpose by al haymon and bob arum, and it worked. cha ching.

aka, "the long awaited showdown between fighter a, and fighter b", is a time honored promotional tradition/scheme, its more about selling an event for maximum profit for all involved, as opposed to two fighters at the peak of their powers getting down for the crown...

[Big_L]

Instead of joining the WWE in 2008 he could have fought a prime Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams. And of course he should have fought Pac before he got knocked out by JMM.

[hugh grant]

in ten years he went through gatti, judah, de la hoya, marquez, mosley, ortiz, cotto, guerrero, canelo, maidana, pacquiao, berto, etc and won every single fight.

please name another fighter during that ten years that went undefeated with a more impressive resume.

i'll wait.

PACs resume is better. Losing don't matter. PACs resume is better and he won better. Stopping Miguel and making people look like elephant man.
But Floyd could have travelled. Could have beat fighters intheiuintheiur prime. Could have beat Sergio. Fought nelo without cw. Fight nelo now.

[-PBP-]

Resume is 1. Who you beat 2. How you beat them 3. When you beat them.

Floyd has 1 and 2 locked down but lacks #3

[smoothsmg]

Larry he was a beast pre Oscar post Oscar he took on the least challenges. You can claim undefeated and champ of this belt but fact is no one did sh it after fighting Floyd and why?? Because they werent that good to begin with that's why. The fact that you can't see that he took the road with the least risk baffles me

Usually when it comes to Floyd, it is a revisionist history.

Fights an undefeated pound for pound in Ricky Hatton. People were clamoring for the fight. They got it.

Retires

Comes back and fights Marquez. He gets ridiculed over the weight issue (and making Marquez come up two weight classes), yet he didn't beat Marquez by bullying him or strength, he beat him with precise punching and ring movement.

Fights Mosley right after mosley smashes the boogeyman Margarito. Mosley was still on the pound for pound list. People still wanted the fight.

Fights Ortiz directly after Ortiz is in the fight of the year with a rising undefeated star in Berto.

Fights Cotto after he bets the Boogeyman, and this was the fight that Floyd got tested the most and he still came out on top.

Fights Guerrero after he is in the fight of the year with berto, someone who still had promise even after the ortiz lost.

Alvarez does not need to be explained

Fights Maidana after another fight (more so upset) of the year candidate when he smashes an undefeated star in Broner. Then gives him an immediate rematch.

Manny fight finally happens

Berto (meh), but he put on a defensive performance that gets overlooked in my eyes.

So if you look at who he fought and when he fought them I can not understand people (not just you) saying he took on the least challenges.

[smoothsmg]

I agree with you about legacy. My point still stands. Its not something I haven't pointed out before.

The men Floyd didn't fight get wildly over rated here on NSB. Posters view them only through their best performance, never their whole career. Margs and Pwill are good examples.

Good fighters, absolutely. Both possess attributes that on paper could trouble a smaller opponent like Floyd. However when the fight is discussed, their shortcomings-Margs lack of speed, Pwill fighting "smaller" than his height-are never factored into the equation.

It's like if they fought Floyd they'd only perform at an A+ level.

You will never ever see a fighter get put down for fighting the Lineal champion who was undefeated for 10 years like Floyd does for fighting Baldomir.

[IronDanHamza]

Resume is 1. Who you beat 2. How you beat them 3. When you beat them.

Floyd has 1 and 2 locked down but lacks #3

He beat a lot of guys when they were reigning champions and ranked at the top of the divison.

Slightly past their best yes but that's going to happen with every fighter.